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    Question Obama a radical?

    I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

    Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
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    Re: Obama a radical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

    Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
    Obama is a radical as much a having macaroni & cheese for lunch.
    Sounds like J-mac is having BS propaganda for lunch.
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    Re: Obama a radical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

    Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
    He's about as radical as these guys are.


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    Re: Obama a radical?

    His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

    Hell yeah, he's a radical.
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    Re: Obama a radical?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

    Hell yeah, he's a radical.
    Proof that anyone in his family was a communist?
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    Re: Obama a radical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

    Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
    radical is a subjective term, meaning that what you view has a radical I may not BUT with that said the trick is to think OBJECTIVELY

    you judge radical from the MIDDLE not from your own point of view. For example if I dont mind interacting with different races or people of different backgrounds or people better off or worse than me and you were taught that you shouldnt or believe you shouldnt you may view me as a radical, I of course would nto view myself as one

    anyway with all that being said, in my opinion Obama is not a radical lol, but im an independant so?
    BUT im open to persuassion, if someone can give me some logic why he is Id change my mind.
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    Re: Obama a radical?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

    Hell yeah, he's a radical.
    That's categorically circumstantial evidence.

    The Cloward-Piven strategy is (1) not radical (since when is informing people about the law radical?) (2) since the only goal is to inform people, talking about welfare in public in any case can contribute to its fulfillment, meaning any political landscape which discusses welfare risks executing the strategy by accident, and (3) Obama hasn't been in power long enough (or done enough) to execute that strategy.

    radical is a subjective term, meaning that what you view has a radical I may not BUT with that said the trick is to think OBJECTIVELY
    The concept is subjective to society, not to individuals. A radical in any society is a person who is going to strain or break the limits of the status quo; a sudden and dramatic reordering of civilization. A progressive might seek to enact the same changes, but in such a distributed timescale that the limits of the status quo are not challenged, but altered subtly.

    'Radical' the term can be subject to individual meaning, too, but unless it conforms to the above formula, it doesn't indicate anything except dissatisfaction.
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    Re: Obama a radical?

    Obama is barely center left, not much of a radical.
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    Re: Obama a radical?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

    Hell yeah, he's a radical.
    I like how every reason you have that he's a communist, or a radical, is what people around him have done. Does guilt by association mean anything to you? His mom was a commie, therefore he must be. His dad was a commie, therefore he must be! He knows a guy named Bill Ayers, therefore he's also a commie!

    Its a conspiracy on par with 9/11 conspiracies.

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    Re: Obama a radical?

    If we count communists, anarcho-syndicalists, nazis and fascists, Obama is left wing but not extreme. If we limit our discussion to those who have actually held high elective office in the USA he is one of the more extreme left wingers. When I think of Obama, I don't think of radical. Underqualified and incompetent are the terms that come to mind.



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