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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As much as I hate to do this I have to actually agree with turtledude on something. The part bolded there is true. One way to fix it though, and increase America's ability to start gaining money is to bring those factories back to the US instead of letting them go over seas. Look at China, they've been gaining steadily for quite some time now and it has mainly to do with the fact that thier economy is based in large part on factories.

    The US needs to start producing material things instead of just consuming.
    that is a good point (and I don't care who said it-it matters not to me). But we make manufacturing too expensive in the states. Lots of reasons for this-overpriced labor, over priced management, too many government regulations, too many taxes.



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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is a good point (and I don't care who said it-it matters not to me). But we make manufacturing too expensive in the states. Lots of reasons for this-overpriced labor, over priced management, too many government regulations, too many taxes.
    Unions don't help either. They were originally brought about because of, or what amounted to, rights violations. I would have to say that they are no longer needed.
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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As much as I hate to do this I have to actually agree with turtledude on something. The part bolded there is true. One way to fix it though, and increase America's ability to start gaining money is to bring those factories back to the US instead of letting them go over seas. Look at China, they've been gaining steadily for quite some time now and it has mainly to do with the fact that thier economy is based in large part on factories.

    The US needs to start producing material things instead of just consuming.
    I am always amused at this type of comment. If you think producing something in the USA is such a good idea, why don't you start a company to produce it?

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I am always amused at this type of comment. If you think producing something in the USA is such a good idea, why don't you start a company to produce it?

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    Because I neither have the resources nor the financing it would take to get a business of that size off the ground. A manufactoring company that will employ at least hundreds and produces a product by the thousands requires far more than I have. There is also the fact that there needs to be more than 1 manufacturing plant in order to help the US.

    But just because I cannot do it does not mean that it is not a good idea or is not needed to be done by several someones that can do it.
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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Why should there be a redistribution of wealth? We had that once in the world and we saw that it did not work. The best system is the one we have current. That allows the most freedom of individual and does not allow for a malevolent dictator to rule over all of us.

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Because I neither have the resources nor the financing it would take to get a business of that size off the ground. A manufactoring company that will employ at least hundreds and produces a product by the thousands requires far more than I have. There is also the fact that there needs to be more than 1 manufacturing plant in order to help the US.

    But just because I cannot do it does not mean that it is not a good idea or is not needed to be done by several someones that can do it.
    You are aware that the US produces A LOT of things. We count for roughly 15% of the world's export total. That is the biggest for any nation. And if prodcing things like textiles or the junk China does. Than NO WAY. We are also one of the luckiest countries in the world that can self sustain itself for generations to come. A quarter of the world's nations can't even feed themselves let alone sustain themselves. Other nation's only wished they could model themselves after us. And sadly, it appears from posters like you on this forum. You think we should start living like the rest of the world. And I say no thank you to that.

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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    The best system is the one we have current. That allows the most freedom of individual and does not allow for a malevolent dictator to rule over all of us.
    The system we have now sucks. The rich pay the vast majority of all the income taxes which is used to pay for those who cannot do for themselves (I'm okay with that) and those who refuse to do for themselves (not down with that). We're also paying for illegal immigrants and their children which is completely ridiculous.

    Meanwhile, we're in debt by trillions of dollars and the feds just want to keep spending and spending and spending. When does it stop??


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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    The system we have now sucks. The rich pay the vast majority of all the income taxes which is used to pay for those who cannot do for themselves (I'm okay with that) and those who refuse to do for themselves (not down with that). We're also paying for illegal immigrants and their children which is completely ridiculous.

    Meanwhile, we're in debt by trillions of dollars and the feds just want to keep spending and spending and spending. When does it stop??
    You can't stop the government from spending. It has been proven when it is not your money. You tend on spending it like there is no tommorrow. Our system "may" suck. But its better then most other systems or nations. Our debt is nowhere near as bad as Germany's and our living standard is nowhere near as bad as Russian's or Chinease.

    For those who refuse to do it for themselves. Well you can't do anything but cut the cord and have an effective LEO and judicial system to punish them if they commit more crimes than they are committing. But then again I am not down with our legal system because it is a JOKE.
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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Unions don't help either. They were originally brought about because of, or what amounted to, rights violations. I would have to say that they are no longer needed.
    I am mainly a labor and an employment rights attorney. In some industries, unions did a great deal of needed reform. In some trades, Unions taught needed skills and guaranteed a needed work standard. However, some unions are nothing more than a drag on some industries and in the public sector-there should be no unions. AFSCME is nothing more than a parasitic organization that increases the costs for taxpayers.



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    Re: Redistribution of Wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Because I neither have the resources nor the financing it would take to get a business of that size off the ground. A manufactoring company that will employ at least hundreds and produces a product by the thousands requires far more than I have. There is also the fact that there needs to be more than 1 manufacturing plant in order to help the US.

    But just because I cannot do it does not mean that it is not a good idea or is not needed to be done by several someones that can do it.
    What resources and/or financing did Steve Jobs or Bill Gates have before they started a business?

    I guess it is just easier to sit back and bitch about others not doing something than putting forth the effort to do it yourself.


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