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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Tolkien was a Christian. Your said "Tolkien Scriptures" are fiction that mirror Christian truths
    LoTR wasn't an allegory, and Tolkein was only a Christian some times. If you want a Christian tale, read Narnia.
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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    LoTR wasn't an allegory, and Tolkein was only a Christian some times. If you want a Christian tale, read Narnia.
    The Lord of the Rings is a definitively Christian story, and Tolkien was a devout Catholic pretty much his whole life. He did have at least one unorthodox belief though -- he believed the world's religions and mythologies were an echo of the divine truth expressed in Christianity. That was part of how he worked his passion for German/Norse (and to a lesser extent Greek) mythology into his stories. There is an obscure academic term for someone who holds that kind of belief (I am one of them), but it eludes my Google and wiki searches.

    Anyway, the Lord of the Rings is Christian in its thematic essence, but weaves Pagan/Ancient/Medieval imagery into the narrative.
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    Gandalf, though in the guise of a Odinic Wanderer, is a Messianic figure. Frodo develops into one as well, particularly with his meek responses throughout the Scouring of the Shire.

    Pity toward frailty and suffering is prevalent.

    The "principle of Evil" developed and promoted by Morgoth and his servants (Sauron in particular) resembles the Christian concept of sin, as does its introduction in the cosmos during the creation of the world.

    The Flame Imperishable that imbues reality with existence and organisms with life compares with the Word of God.

    Free will and the desire for immortal life -- materially and spiritually -- are major themes.

    It's worth noting that Tolkien didn't just parrot Christian dogma. He did develop these themes and ideas in original ways, not likely to be encountered in earlier (or subsequent) works.
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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    LoTR wasn't an allegory, and Tolkein was only a Christian some times. If you want a Christian tale, read Narnia.
    In the second grade we had The Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe read to us. A question on our test was What figure did the Lion represent? Answer- Jesus.

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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Frodo saved the mother****ing Shire and ****!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Frodo saved the mother****ing Shire and ****!
    He couldn't have done it without Sam. Sam was the best sidekick ever.

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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Sorry to dissapoint you, but Gondor is in Germany.

    It's pretty obvious that the Shire was England, and I agree that the Dwarves (mountain people) would be the Swiss and Czechs, but the rest is pretty dubious. France as Lothlorien? Seriously? I'd be more inclined to have France and Germany as Gondor; and Poland, the Baltic states, and the Ukraine as Rohan. Lothlorien would be Sweden or Norway. Isengard might be in Northern Italy. Fangorn in Greece? More like Hungary, Bulgaria, or Romania. Mordor is Southeast, so more like ancient Tartary / Kazkhstan. Russia would mostly be the frozen, haunted wastes left over from Melkor's rule.

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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Frodo saved the mother****ing Shire and ****!
    No. He failed. He gave in to the ring. It was only Gollum who got the job done by accident.
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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Ill never understand the appeal of LoTR, I just cant get into the fantasy genre.
    Jackboots always come in matched pairs, a left boot and a right boot.

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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Sorry to dissapoint you, but Gondor is in Germany.

    Holy crap. This means that the Americas are the land of the gay elves!

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    Re: Do you believe in Frodo?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Holy crap. This means that the Americas are the land of the gay elves!
    We profer the term "Drow", if you please sir.

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