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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Because those countries don’t allow their members to sue the military for discrimination the way that the US does and this will further increase the military budget to deal with social issues rather than money spent on killing the enemy.
    Right, if we see an increase in the amount of dixrimination lawsuits, I'll grant that as a valid point. But let me ask you this, do you think that'll cost more than booting out, say, a pilot that had served in 2 wars, and had had $25,000,000 spent on his training? And since DADT was implemented, it was discharged 13,000 personell, I think the collective cost of that is much higher than the cost of lawsuits.
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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    LMAO you obviously dont know what a strawman is because that was a spot on question

    it means if our serving men and women are so easily distracted in the ability to do their job we have MUCH bigger problems

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    It was an obvious strawman because I never anything about anyone getting distracted. I won’t allow you to color me a bigot so easily.
    If you want to call me a bigot for having issues with what this legislation might do to our military, feel free to call me names.
    If you want to have an adult conversation about it, don’t color me a bigot with your strawman questions.

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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Right, if we see an increase in the amount of dixrimination lawsuits, I'll grant that as a valid point. But let me ask you this, do you think that'll cost more than booting out, say, a pilot that had served in 2 wars, and had had $25,000,000 spent on his training? And since DADT was implemented, it was discharged 13,000 personell, I think the collective cost of that is much higher than the cost of lawsuits.
    That’s a good point. I hadn’t really considered that.

    However, I can see the rewards for a single lawsuit being something insane like they were against tobacco companies or McDonalds etc. To be honest, I would support this legislation if I knew there was a fair way to prevent any kind of a “payday” lawsuit but it looks to me like we have opened up the ACLU lawsuit floodgates.


    You make an excellent point and I plan to research and consider it more thoroughly.

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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    That’s a good point. I hadn’t really considered that.

    However, I can see the rewards for a single lawsuit being something insane like they were against tobacco companies or McDonalds etc. To be honest, I would support this legislation if I knew there was a fair way to prevent any kind of a “payday” lawsuit but it looks to me like we have opened up the ACLU lawsuit floodgates.


    You make an excellent point and I plan to research and consider it more thoroughly.
    Those lawsuits wouldnt be mutli-million dollar events. I've never heard of the Army paying people money for a discrmination lawsuit, normally the goal of the accuser is simply to get the defendent kicked out of the military or serve jail time.

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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    I'm not overly concerned. I just hope the military is able to implement any necessary changes without undue problems.

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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not overly concerned. I just hope the military is able to implement any necessary changes without undue problems.
    Oh well - that's a different issue.

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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    In light of today's passing of the repeal of DADT in the senate, how long until the US military fails?
    It already has, the hour the Senate killed DADT, if you listen to Gflex. You know, because of the upcoming gay lawsuits that will ruin the military.
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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Those lawsuits wouldnt be mutli-million dollar events. I've never heard of the Army paying people money for a discrmination lawsuit, normally the goal of the accuser is simply to get the defendent kicked out of the military or serve jail time.
    How do you know there won’t be multimillion dollar settlements? Is there something the DADT Repeal legislation that prevents it?

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    Re: How long until the US military fails?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    How do you know there won’t be multimillion dollar settlements? Is there something the DADT Repeal legislation that prevents it?
    An active duty servicemember cannot sue the military/US government, even through proxy, while serving on active duty. All issues, especially concerning harassment and/or discrimination are dealt with through the chain of command.
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