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    Partisan Science

    Looking at the debate over global warning, it appears that both sides of the debate have their own studies and citations. These different sources of information appear to have no common meeting points. Would this be an example of partisan science?

    Personally, I feel that science is involved in the pursuit of truth and the possibility of science being altered for political purposes disgusts me.

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    Re: Partisan Science

    I dont know what you're talking about. According to many of the liberals who post on this board, there IS no debate reagrding Global Warming, nor on mankinds effect on it. It's all 100% agreed upon. Complete and utter consensus.

    I completely agree with your second point.

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    Re: Partisan Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I dont know what you're talking about. According to many of the liberals who post on this board, there IS no debate reagrding Global Warming, nor on mankinds effect on it. It's all 100% agreed upon. Complete and utter consensus.
    This supports my point about partisanship, I think. Each side believes that they are 100% right and data that does not support their claim is somehow inadequate.

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    Re: Partisan Science

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This supports my point about partisanship, I think. Each side believes that they are 100% right and data that does not support their claim is somehow inadequate.
    sound about par for the course, doesn't it?

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    Re: Partisan Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    sound about par for the course, doesn't it?
    I am not sure what you mean.

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    Re: Partisan Science

    When science involves a political issue its not going to really be impartial.
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    Re: Partisan Science

    My sophomore year Environmental/Biology professor said this when he and I were talking about how science and politics interact. "When politics affect science so much that finding become altered to support political goals, you no longer have science anymore. Instead what you have is politics."

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    Re: Partisan Science

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Looking at the debate over global warning, it appears that both sides of the debate have their own studies and citations. These different sources of information appear to have no common meeting points. Would this be an example of partisan science?

    Personally, I feel that science is involved in the pursuit of truth and the possibility of science being altered for political purposes disgusts me.
    Politics should stay out of science. We need to do our experiments and look at the data and argue within our own groups as to what the data means. As soon as politics gets involved, it becomes all but impossible to get through the tripe and propaganda and get to the actual data and results.
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    Re: Partisan Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    sound about par for the course, doesn't it?
    So we need to change that.

    Also, on a side note, I'm in Philadelphia for three days (I'm English, first time in the city), and I see your .jpg is of the Philadelphia Eagles. Do you live here? And if so, could you suggest me up some interesting historical sites, as well as the pubs? XD

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    Re: Partisan Science

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Looking at the debate over global warning, it appears that both sides of the debate have their own studies and citations. These different sources of information appear to have no common meeting points. Would this be an example of partisan science?

    Personally, I feel that science is involved in the pursuit of truth and the possibility of science being altered for political purposes disgusts me.
    Yes, it is. In fact there is probably a lot more partisan science going on than most people realize. Reasons? Grants, Funding, Tenure, Publish or Perish, and yes even fame...

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