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Poll- Did America fake the moon landing?

Was the moon landing faked?

  • Yes, it was fake

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • No, it wasn't fake

    Votes: 56 90.3%
  • Parts of it were fake

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Other, explain

    Votes: 2 3.2%

  • Total voters
    62
I find this statement depressing. Without space exploration, human beings will die out. We can't survive on this planet forever. The sooner a worldwide entity starts exploring outside our solar system, the better. Too bad human beings are too petty and small minded to trust each other to that degree. We deserve to die out, and that's exactly what will happen. But it's still sad.

Take pleasure in the success of the Chinese. They are a wonderful people. And accept your karma.
 
I think you mean "accept our karma."

easy dreams at the end of a chain smoking day

I can't say "accept our karma." There no longer is an "us." There is no "we." There are too many different versions of America for there to be a United States.
 
aye, that and if they think Ringo was a really good drummer.

Ringo was a good drummer. Other drummers can do what he does on an album, but the beauty of Ringo was that he could sit down, the band tell him to go along with them, and he'd come up with stuff that'd take other drummers weeks to invent. Not that he was incredibly brilliant or anything, he just gets a lot of crap. Listen to A Day in the Life and tell me he's a bad drummer ;)

But on topic, I haven't done a proper investigation into it, so I don't know, although from the investigation I have done it appears it wasn't faked.
 
I have seen a few documentaries before, and I recently watched an episode of Fact or Faked on this. They concluded that parts of could have been faked on a sound stage, but they don't believe that it was and presented the evidence.

If it did, then America is overdo for an Oscar.
 
Fooling the entire world into believing they actually landed on the moon is probably a greater feat than actually landing there... I don't really care whether they did or not, the fact is, we now have the technology to. I don't care about "beating the Russians".

Seriously, go to the Flat Earth forums, they actually make some of the people here look intelligent.
 
I was not calling it into doubt, simply noting that it is more plausible that such an event was faked compared to the moon landing. Partly this is due to the nature of the event. Only something bigger than the competition between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. creates a sufficient motive for both sides to conceal the real events and it would be harder to do. On the other hand there would be plenty of motive for faking an event like the Holocaust and it would be relatively easy given the circumstances.
Let me get this straight once again...

It would be easier to fake a well documented and monumental event involving millions of people in the pre-modern-technology era... than it would be to fake an event involving perhaps thousands of people in a post-modern-technology era.

That would be akin to saying it would have been easier to doctor a video in 1969 than it is today in 2010.

Do you really believe in such a nonsensical and retrograde notion?
 
Let me get this straight once again...

It would be easier to fake a well documented and monumental event involving millions of people in the pre-modern-technology era... than it would be to fake an event involving perhaps thousands of people in a post-modern-technology era.

That would be akin to saying it would have been easier to doctor a video in 1969 than it is today in 2010.

Do you really believe in such a nonsensical and retrograde notion?

The evidence for the Holocaust consists primarily of eyewitness accounts and documents. Both of those are much more easily manufactured than the various things that would need to be fabricated to fake a moon landing. Also there would have to be a discernible motive for other powers to keep the secret as well. In the case of the Holocaust all those who would be in the know would have sufficient motive to keep such a secret, while this is not the case with the moon landing.

However, as I was saying to others one thing that definitely differentiates it from the idea of a faked moon landing is the motivation and nature. People tend to say we did not land on the moon more because of some laymen's doubt than an actual desire to poke holes in the story.
 
Let me get this straight once again...

It would be easier to fake a well documented and monumental event involving millions of people in the pre-modern-technology era... than it would be to fake an event involving perhaps thousands of people in a post-modern-technology era.

That would be akin to saying it would have been easier to doctor a video in 1969 than it is today in 2010.

Do you really believe in such a nonsensical and retrograde notion?

Yup. That's what I was wondering. I thought I was reading it wrong.
 
For me, there is one question that has never been answered satisfactorily: Radiation outside the Van Allen Belt is lethal and our spacecrafts were not made of lead. These men should not have come back alive, if what I understand about the nature of solar radiation outside the belt is correct. :confused:
 
The evidence for the Holocaust consists primarily of eyewitness accounts and documents. Both of those are much more easily manufactured than the various things that would need to be fabricated to fake a moon landing.
Something is very odd here. I have a Ph.D in physics and probing the universe is my vocation. I accomplish my cosmic exploring at the most high-tech physics facility in the United States. On the flip side, the Holocaust claimed most of my extended family. I have explored this huge personal loss in-depth. From perusing documents in Das Bundesarchiv to visiting the villages (Ukraine/Belarus/Russia) and speaking with the people who remembered the dark days and oftentimes... the murdered members of my family.

Yet despite the above and for some inexplicable reason, you boldly claim that I am the individual in error here. Very odd indeed.

Unfortunately for you Demon, there is someone on this board who is very well versed in both of these fields. I can only suggest that you adjust your critical thinking cap and try it again. Your current approach would never pass muster in a university setting.
 
For me, there is one question that has never been answered satisfactorily: Radiation outside the Van Allen Belt is lethal and our spacecrafts were not made of lead. These men should not have come back alive, if what I understand about the nature of solar radiation outside the belt is correct. :confused:

apparently the radiation wasn't that lethal, and/or the shielding methods reduced the doses each astronaut received.....lead isn't the only thing that stops radiation, and there are diffent kinds of shielding for different kinds of radiation.
But those moon shots were short trips, especially compared to what it will take to go to Mars.
AS for finding a new planet that we can migrate to, good luck with that as well. Odds are, the current residents will look at us as invaders and kill us, unless we make sure they understand that we are only uninvited/illegal immigrants coming to their planet to pick their crops...
 
I once read an interesting book on conspiracy theories, and it made a good point about the moon landings, and it went something like this:

"For all the trouble it would have taken, to film and fake the moon landings, and keep it all completely quiet from the public, for all the painstaking effort that would have taken, it simply would have been easier... to land on the moon"

Thats the word, I stick to it.

Jetboogieman.
 
Something is very odd here. I have a Ph.D in physics and probing the universe is my vocation. I accomplish my cosmic exploring at the most high-tech physics facility in the United States. On the flip side, the Holocaust claimed most of my extended family. I have explored this huge personal loss in-depth. From perusing documents in Das Bundesarchiv to visiting the villages (Ukraine/Belarus/Russia) and speaking with the people who remembered the dark days and oftentimes... the murdered members of my family.

Yet despite the above and for some inexplicable reason, you boldly claim that I am the individual in error here. Very odd indeed.

Unfortunately for you Demon, there is someone on this board who is very well versed in both of these fields. I can only suggest that you adjust your critical thinking cap and try it again. Your current approach would never pass muster in a university setting.

The only error I am accusing you of is the error of assuming a moon landing would be easier to fake. I really could not give a damn about your credentials.
 
The only error I am accusing you of is the error of assuming a moon landing would be easier to fake. I really could not give a damn about your credentials.
Utter hypocrisy on your part then. You certainly have no problem utilizing credentials when doing so suits your agenda.

Dumbing it down a bit... cherry picking.
 
Utter hypocrisy on your part then. You certainly have no problem utilizing credentials when doing so suits your agenda.

When have I ever said anything about my credentials?
 
Just to add to this, and put the concpiracy theory to rest, My father had been stationed at the Naval Observatory in Washington DC several years back, and during his time there, I had the privlige of glancing through one of the high powered telescopes. I have personally seen the landing site, and all the remaining materials left behind. I know my word means nothing as this is the internet, but none the less I will assure you the moon landing was not faked.
 
Just to add to this, and put the concpiracy theory to rest, My father had been stationed at the Naval Observatory in Washington DC several years back, and during his time there, I had the privlige of glancing through one of the high powered telescopes. I have personally seen the landing site, and all the remaining materials left behind. I know my word means nothing as this is the internet, but none the less I will assure you the moon landing was not faked.
Indeed. We utilized the moon surface when calibrating a new CCD array for a refitted CTIO telescope on Mount Blanco in Chile. The landing artifacts remain pristine.

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