View Poll Results: Who Was the Greatest Military Leader in History?

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  • Napoleon Bonaparte

    2 6.90%
  • Georgy Zhukov

    1 3.45%
  • Sir Arthur Wellesly (Duke of Wellington)

    1 3.45%
  • Alexander the Great

    13 44.83%
  • Ghenghis Khan

    8 27.59%
  • Alexander Suvorov

    1 3.45%
  • Julius Caesar

    1 3.45%
  • Helmuth von Moltke

    0 0%
  • Oliver Cromwell

    0 0%
  • Charlemagne

    2 6.90%
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Thread: The Greatest General in History

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Shaka-Zulu. started with a small band of loyals. completely changed how sub saharan African warfare was waged. displaced one fourth of sub saharan AFrica. His soldiers-divided into Impas were fearless, loyal to death and so much better than any of their contemporaries.
    Again though, I would argue that any great general, was only great in their time. Because they understood the complexity of Combat and warfare of their battlefields, terrain and physchology of their enemies.

    Give Shaka Zulu 1000 tanks, 400 aircraft including 12 stealth bombers, 1 000 000 men to invade Sweden, and he just might lose, just as much as giving Patreaus 4000 Impas and sending him to invade Great Zimbabwe...

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Seems to me that beating your opponent politically is much harder than beating him in a battle...
    Dying is easier then getting elected

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Shaka-Zulu. started with a small band of loyals. completely changed how sub saharan African warfare was waged. displaced one fourth of sub saharan AFrica. His soldiers-divided into Impas were fearless, loyal to death and so much better than any of their contemporaries.
    I don't know if he would be the greatest general, but his episode of Deadliest Warrior was awesome.

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    This was a toss up for me. Do you go with Napoleon: the man who forged current social society, law, civil rights, and conquered Europe. Or do you go with the guy who beat him. I am going to go with the guy who beat him.

    I might add that Gengis, though great, was never the military person who lead to his victories. Subutai should be on this list.
    I would have to go with Napoleon. I like the image of him being compared to Zorro, except he had two swords.

    He took on all manner of armies and won against overwhelming odds. Crafty bugger. And the saying, do we have the horses... is attributed to him.

    Have to respect the German Generals from WWII, as they required 44 countries in combined force to bring them down.

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Mr. Kahn, not only did he conquer an enormous amount of territory, he was also quite creative in how he did it.
    Khan was not a general. He should not be on the list. Most of the conquests he is acredited with actually was done by his generals, one in specific... Subatai.
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    I chose Alexander the Great because he lead his men plus had huge results out of it.

    One that is missing from the list imo, and should have been there is Eisenhower. He is often forgotten as a General and remembered more as a President, but what he did during WW2 in Europe was huge. He held together an alliance of nations, that all had great hothead generals.. Monty, Patton and De Gaulle to name a few. On top of that he forged the strategy that lead to victory.
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Again though, I would argue that any great general, was only great in their time. Because they understood the complexity of Combat and warfare of their battlefields, terrain and physchology of their enemies.

    Give Shaka Zulu 1000 tanks, 400 aircraft including 12 stealth bombers, 1 000 000 men to invade Sweden, and he just might lose, just as much as giving Patreaus 4000 Impas and sending him to invade Great Zimbabwe...
    that's a legitimate argument. I was basing it on the resources available and what they did with them. His successor of several decades was a great general too-except his men under his half brother Dabulamanzi kaMpande couldn't handle Lt Chard and a hundred well trained British engineers armed with powerful Martini-Henry rifles at Rorke's drift



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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a legitimate argument. I was basing it on the resources available and what they did with them. His successor of several decades was a great general too-except his men under his half brother Dabulamanzi kaMpande couldn't handle Lt Chard and a hundred well trained British engineers armed with powerful Martini-Henry rifles at Rorke's drift
    Ah Rorkes drift... Zulu is an awesome movie

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ah Rorkes drift... Zulu is an awesome movie
    True, Chief Gotcha Butelezi and his people played the role of the Zulus. 11 Victoria crosses. I love the sargent-Major bayonet fighting a bunch of warriors.



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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    True, Chief Gotcha Butelezi and his people played the role of the Zulus. 11 Victoria crosses. I love the sargent-Major bayonet fighting a bunch of warriors.
    "would somebody please pop that chap" lol

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