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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Okay. Maybe it isn't a problem in your area... but in some areas it is.

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Okay. Maybe it isn't a problem in your area... but in some areas it is.
    then in that area obviously the wages need to rise



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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Ah... ex-fiance was a cop. NOW we know the source of Noodle's anger towards this profession. I think it's pretty well established that Noodle doesn't know what he's talking about on this issue. My mom was a teacher for 44 years... teaching in one of the worst inner city schools in one of the worst cities in the country. She would go YEARS without missing a day of work... and because of her teaching, some of these kids learned to read, to write, and learned the importance of an education. Education is the number one way that people... especially the poor, excel. So, yes, people like my mother have more impact on society than near any other profession. Growing up, I didn't live in a huge house, at one point, my mom drove the same car for 20 years, and though I didn't starve, none of us could have everything we wanted. There were definitely times when money was tight. With the importance level of the job, payment should absolutely have been better. So, no... teachers, cops, and firemen, because of their importance to the foundation of society, should be some of the best paid folks out there. Noodle has presented nothing to counter this... in fact, all he has presented is unsubstantiated anger. Maybe the EX in ex-fiance has something to do with that.

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    You probably believe in Noah living 900+ years and the Ark while we are at it.
    All you present is your opinion. I present life events and fact.
    And Goshin.... I appreciate your side of the story. I respect that. I have had dissimilar experiences but I respect it and will take it into account.
    No, you have presented zero facts. Just some personal indignation. I have provided you with plenty of information. You choose to ignore it.
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Well, wouldn't you agree that upgrading the quality of the average cop-on-the-street would be a positive? More money would attract better candidates....
    You do understand how public servants get paid with? Frankly, you would be surprised to learn that most taxpayers are not millionaires. And are living in debt that would bankrupt most private businesses. But somehow when they get the call to pay their property tax and other taxes. They are able to feed over 25% of the population. If you think policeman or soldiers are superman then you are simply not giving enough credit to the taxpayer who feeds you and your family members.

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess the point I make is that the ones I constantly deal with are pretty damn good. The ones in my city, the ones in the town where my son goes to school and the CPD are top flight. So as far as I know whatever they are paying them is getting really good people.
    And the problem is that more people want to give them a higher salary. I wonder who could be behind wanting to get public servants a higher salary......

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I didn't work in a large metro area, Maggie. I worked in a small city of 50,000, and the surrounding suburban and rural countryside. Want me to list some of the crimes I was involved with as an cop?
    Murder
    Child abuse, including what can only be called torture.
    Rape, spouse abuse.
    Rape of minor children.
    Manslaughter
    Armed Robbery, strongarm robbery, burglary, bank robbery, attempted murder, attempted rape.... the list is as long as the state Code of Laws.
    Want me to list of the crimes I have been involved as a landlord?
    Assault
    robbery
    Armed robbery
    Armed assault
    Fraud
    attacks by police officers
    damage to private property numbering in the 1000s
    attempted rape
    attempted murder
    loss of money because tenant would not pay
    I could go on and on. But you wouldn't believe how bad we have it compare to you guys. Why? Because society views every landlord as a slumlord and we get treated as such by you, judges, etc. And frankly we are not making that much money. If we get 3000 a month from rent a third of that goes to insurance, another third goes to taxes, and then 200-400 goes to maintance. So yeah.
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is very difficult to quantify jobs one-on- one like that, in my opinion. I don't know what the average accountant's starting salary is in the Chicago area. I do know that whatever it is, I, as a taxpayer, don't have to pay it.
    You're saying that the city of Chicago and Cook County (not to mention the state of Illinois) don't employ accountants?

    Really? Are you actually saying that?

    Because, I looked it up, and accountant/financial types in cook county start at around 41k a year. There are accounting clerks in Cook County making more than an experienced cop.

    I'd do it in a heartbeat "if I knew then what I know now" -- teacher/fireman/copper/federal-state employee.
    It's a shame you didn't, the law enforcement profession needs common sense types.

    At least you admit your bias. I was offered the job as Admin Asst. to the Chief of Police in my little town. I shoulda' taken it in hindsight. When middle-class people are being squeezed out of their neighborhoods and out of their homes because they cannot afford to pay the property taxes that are assessed due to the most generous salaries provided to our public servants, something is wrong.
    City salaries should be a reflection of earning levels in the local community.

    But...consider this. What about areas where there are a lot of problems and poverty? Do you want to be able to draw a qualified pool of applicants to work in those areas? Because think about it...doing government work in those areas (whether it is as a teacher or a cop) is going to be a lot more difficult there. In order to compete with other jurisdictions in the same metro area, you have to have comparable salaries.

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Outside of large metro areas, most police officers are not subject to the travails you describe.
    If you look at the people who were killed in the line of duty in the U.S. last year, you'd find that about half were in rural areas. See, domestic violence, aggravated assault, drug trafficking, meth cooking, etc., isn't non-existent in those rural areas. You just have less backup/manpower to deal with them.

    YOu may have a point about some of the affluent communities with low crime rates. But, even in the suburbs, law enforcement work can be extremely dangerous.

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Want me to list of the crimes I have been involved as a landlord?
    Assault
    robbery
    Armed robbery
    Armed assault
    Fraud
    attacks by police officers
    damage to private property numbering in the 1000s
    attempted rape
    attempted murder
    loss of money because tenant would not pay
    I could go on and on. But you wouldn't believe how bad we have it compare to you guys. Why? Because society views every landlord as a slumlord and we get treated as such by you, judges, etc. And frankly we are not making that much money. If we get 3000 a month from rent a third of that goes to insurance, another third goes to taxes, and then 200-400 goes to maintance. So yeah.
    If these are the activities happening in and around your properties, you ARE a slumlord.

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