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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    No offense, but I can't see you as a copper. MAYBE a dispatcher.
    And what does THAT mean???????
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    And what does THAT mean???????
    I don't think you have the quick thinking skills that law enforcement work (particularly in a large city) requires. I think you're very, very nice, but I think you'd leave your gun on top of your car.

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I consider $43k a year a reasonable starting salary for a cop in Chicago, especially since I believe that CPD requires a degree. I don't believe that a cop should earn more than a soldier. However, our failure to adequately pay our armed forces is no justification for cutting pay for other vital functions. In addition to pay, of course, soldiers receive many benefits, such as a housing allowance, which should be taken into consideration when calculating their pay.
    $57,000 after eighteen months is not chicken feed. Combine that with regular advancement and pension/health benefits to choke a freakin' horse and it's a huge burden on taxpayers. Huge. Teacher/copper/firemen pensions are bankrupting many of our states. And still, they're such a sacrosanct jobs that people want to pay them more. Drives me nutz. ;-)
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Let's look at it from the standpoint of what they could be making in private industry.

    Most departments these days are requiring either a 2 year degree in Criminology, or a 4 year degree in whatever.

    You must be physically able to pass the PT tests; learn to shoot to certain standards; attend several weeks of training at the Academy, and ongoing training forever; work under stressful and adverse conditions, dealing with danger and confrontation daily.

    Sounds like they ought to be making what other educated and well-trained, versatile professionals are making in private industry, and that 50-100k is not unreasonable depending on experience/seniority/accomplishments and the cost of living in their area.
    They look for confrontation daily. Most people would not want to be bothered by police officers. But the police does not let up. There is money to be made for the city to pay for their inflated pension and benefit and salary. Also the dangers facing the police are overstated. Few police officers actually go after violent criminals. Those police officers that do; deserve a six figure salary and pension in the 30k. But that won't happen.

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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    well, all those UAW workers who lost their $40/hr jobs tightening screws on the assembly line have to go somewhere.

    Yes! And they are qualified for the job too. Thats why they are applying there!
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    $57,000 after eighteen months is not chicken feed.
    After 18 months, the city has perhaps invested 20-30k in training. You have to pay your people enough that they will stay in the job, and use those skills FOR YOU. I consider it reasonable pay for the area in which you live.



    Combine that with regular advancement and pension/health benefits to choke a freakin' horse and it's a huge burden on taxpayers. Huge.
    I notice you've refused, several times, to answer the question about whether cops should make as much money as accountants. Cops and teachers have specialized skills. They do difficult work. With cops and firefighters, they risk their lives every time they make a call for service. And yet, they probably make half of what an accountant, with the same level of experience, makes in your city.

    Teacher/copper/firemen pensions are bankrupting many of our states.
    Actually, states spend money on a lot more stupid things than cop/firefighter/teacher pensions. My goodness, you've really worked up a heady rant here, haven't you?

    If their jobs are so easy, and pay so well, why aren't you doing one of them?

    And still, they're such a sacrosanct jobs that people want to pay them more. Drives me nutz. ;-)
    I can see that you're driven nuts. I'm a non-sworn person who's worked closely with cops for the last 16 years. I have given you several solid reasons for why cops are paid as they currently are. You've ignored all of them, preferring to hold onto your indignation.

    That makes logical reasoning rather difficult.
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    After 18 months, the city has perhaps invested 20-30k in training. You have to pay your people enough that they will stay in the job, and use those skills FOR YOU. I consider it reasonable pay for the area in which you live.
    Just like any other job. If they werent commited in the 1st place they should have the darn job! If $58K isnt enough money for them they should have known that before hand!
    You lose argument!



    I notice you've refused, several times, to answer the question about whether cops should make as much money as accountants. Cops and teachers have specialized skills. They do difficult work. With cops and firefighters, they risk their lives every time they make a call for service. And yet, they probably make half of what an accountant, with the same level of experience, makes in your city.
    What about construction workers? What about truck drivers? What about nail stylists (or whatever they are called)
    We can compare one job to the next regarding DANGER. Cops generally have a very safe working environment. I know this as fact because my ex-fiance was one!!!


    Actually, states spend money on a lot more stupid things than cop/firefighter/teacher pensions. My goodness, you've really worked up a heady rant here, haven't you?
    States DO spend money on stupid things. BUT..... does THAT mean we should keep the huge amount of money wasted going to these people that dont deserve it? NO!

    If their jobs are so easy, and pay so well, why aren't you doing one of them?
    Now thats a goofy discussion. Maybe she likes to do something else?


    I can see that you're driven nuts. I'm a non-sworn person who's worked closely with cops for the last 16 years. I have given you several solid reasons for why cops are paid as they currently are. You've ignored all of them, preferring to hold onto your indignation.
    I shall answer FOR Maggie and say.... it is inaccurate for you to say Im driven nuts.... so Im glad youre not working with detectives. Also the very AWESOME Giant Noodle has proved to everyone time and time again why cops, teachers and firefolks should NOT get paid so much AND with a pension AND with free healthcare AND with all the perks. If you cant understand that then I feel you have lost this discussion.
    That makes logical reasoning rather difficult.[/QUOTE]
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    After 18 months, the city has perhaps invested 20-30k in training. You have to pay your people enough that they will stay in the job, and use those skills FOR YOU. I consider it reasonable pay for the area in which you live.
    I like that reasoning, Catz. Makes sense.

    I notice you've refused, several times, to answer the question about whether cops should make as much money as accountants. Cops and teachers have specialized skills. They do difficult work. With cops and firefighters, they risk their lives every time they make a call for service. And yet, they probably make half of what an accountant, with the same level of experience, makes in your city.
    When I answered with the soldier reference, I was, in essence, answering your question. It is very difficult to quantify jobs one-on- one like that, in my opinion. I don't know what the average accountant's starting salary is in the Chicago area. I do know that whatever it is, I, as a taxpayer, don't have to pay it. And further, I know that the give-take negotiations of that salary were done at arm's length rather than being the political footballs/hot potatoes that copper/firemen/teacher salaries are.

    Actually, states spend money on a lot more stupid things than cop/firefighter/teacher pensions. My goodness, you've really worked up a heady rant here, haven't you?
    No heady rant here. I feel strongly about the subject. I'm sure you have some you feel strongly about as well. Fact is, I know you do. ;-)

    If their jobs are so easy, and pay so well, why aren't you doing one of them?
    I'd do it in a heartbeat "if I knew then what I know now" -- teacher/fireman/copper/federal-state employee.

    I can see that you're driven nuts. I'm a non-sworn person who's worked closely with cops for the last 16 years. I have given you several solid reasons for why cops are paid as they currently are. You've ignored all of them, preferring to hold onto your indignation. That makes logical reasoning rather difficult.
    At least you admit your bias. I was offered the job as Admin Asst. to the Chief of Police in my little town. I shoulda' taken it in hindsight. When middle-class people are being squeezed out of their neighborhoods and out of their homes because they cannot afford to pay the property taxes that are assessed due to the most generous salaries provided to our public servants, something is wrong.

    I am blessed in that I'm not one of those people, but I feel for those who are in that position. Here in suburban Chicago there are plenty of them.
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    It all depends on the city they work in. I live in a small country town that is very low on crime. I hope the police aren't pulling in anymore than 50k, all they are doing is enforcing traffic laws and busting high school pot dealers.
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    Re: How much should cops be paid?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Also the very AWESOME Giant Noodle has proved to everyone time and time again why cops, teachers and firefolks should NOT get paid so much AND with a pension AND with free healthcare AND with all the perks.
    Actually, all the Giant Noodle has done is demonstrate envy and baseless degrading of folks in those positions. The Giant Noodle has presented no evidence, has ignored all evidence, and has presented nothing but an indignant opinion. That is why the Giant Noodle has lost this debate, completely.
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