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Do You believe Noah?

Do you believe Noah?


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The Giant Noodle

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THe Bible says this fella Noah lived about 900 years...... built a HUUUUUGE ship and put 2 of EVERY animal on that boat. The logistics of finding not just EVERY animal, but then getting it to the ship..... then not having the animals eat each other.... or eat Noah..... and then you have enough fresh water and FOOD to FEED the animals.......
Well...... what do YOU think?
 
The Ark as a physical object would have been impossible. Physically, the thing couldnt have floated.

Additionally, the flood would have killed ALL life on Earth, even Noah and any animals on the Ark.

Both events I see as allegorical or an attempt to "out do" other flood mythology around at the time.
 
As far as logistics are concerned it's impossible unless they take an interventionist route and claim that God shrunk down all the animals and made them hibernate the entire time and helped the arc stay afloat etc. Which is more of an excuse to believe in something like this more so than a reason.
 
THe Bible says this fella Noah lived about 900 years...... built a HUUUUUGE ship and put 2 of EVERY animal on that boat. The logistics of finding not just EVERY animal, but then getting it to the ship..... then not having the animals eat each other.... or eat Noah..... and then you have enough fresh water and FOOD to FEED the animals.......
Well...... what do YOU think?
can you prove he did not?

can you prove he didn't?

According to the Bible, Noah did not 'find' the animals, they came to him.

I guess God couldn't keep animals from eating each other if he didn't want them to, huh

Ever hear the story of the loaves and fish?


That's how easy it is to negate the OP, if you're religious. If you're not, you'll probably think the OP is 'God'. (pun intended)
 
can you prove he did not?

You want him to disprove that a man, that we essentially have no knowledge of outside of the bible, put two of every animal on a boat that we have no evidence ever existed outside of biblical claims? That's like asking you to disprove my invisible pink unicorn.
 
THe Bible says this fella Noah lived about 900 years...... built a HUUUUUGE ship and put 2 of EVERY animal on that boat. The logistics of finding not just EVERY animal, but then getting it to the ship..... then not having the animals eat each other.... or eat Noah..... and then you have enough fresh water and FOOD to FEED the animals.......
Well...... what do YOU think?

If you believe in a supreme being who made the whole world and universe, wouldn't Noah living 900 years and the whole ark thing not seem that far fetched?
 
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The story in it self is total rubbish. For example, the Ark apparently kept it self from sinking to the bottom by gods help. Somehow god magically was able to keep all the meat eaters from eating the plant eaters. In my own opinion, the entire story is just a contraction of it self.
 
You want him to disprove that a man, that we essentially have no knowledge of outside of the bible, put two of every animal on a boat that we have no evidence ever existed outside of biblical claims? That's like asking you to disprove my invisible pink unicorn.

I cannot disprove you're invisble pink unicorn... other than to say, 'if it is invisible... how do you know it's pink?'... same way he cannot disprove Noah, as he was not there and has nothing to go on.

Just playing devil's advocate.
 
If you believe in a supreme being who made the whole world and universe, wouldn't Noah living 900 years and the whole ark thing not seem that far fetched?

exactly my point... if you are religious, you'll find it at least plausable. If you're not, you won't. pretty simple really.
 
If you believe in a supreme being who made the whole world and universe, wouldn't Noah living 900 years and the whole ark thing not seem that far fetched?

Doesn't seem that far fetched if you believe that, but it still makes no sense. If God is that powerful just kill all the other people and animals without the flood. No need to build the arc and go through the trouble. The whole idea of a perfect being creating imperfect beings that he later on kills nearly all of them off to make things better screams to me "someone didn't think this through before they wrote this story."
 
I cannot disprove you're invisble pink unicorn... other than to say, 'if it is invisible... how do you know it's pink?'... same way he cannot disprove Noah, as he was not there and has nothing to go on.

Just playing devil's advocate.
I know it's pink through faith... and personal revalations with the pink unicorn.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass about this, honestly, but does it bother you, if you believe in the story completely, I'm not sure, that you essentially just agreed that you believe in something that's as provable as an invisible pink unicorn? I've always been curious about that.
 
If you believe in a supreme being who made the whole world and universe, wouldn't Noah living 900 years and the whole ark thing not seem that far fetched?

"They strain at a gnat, and swallow an elephant."
 
I just want to know how koalas got from Australia to Noah's ark.

But if you look at all the different mythos in Europe/West Asia, you find they all mention a flood, from the Greeks to the Hindis and the Mesopotamians, so there may have been a nig flood in the area at one time.
 
It's a fairy tail.
 
If you believe in a supreme being who made the whole world and universe, wouldn't Noah living 900 years and the whole ark thing not seem that far fetched?

Im starting to see how conservatives believe Glen Beck and Palin. :lol: :ssst:
 
One thing that troubles me about the story of the Ark is that NO plant species were taken on board. If the world were flooded, all land-based plants would be dead in no time. What good is a huge herd of animals when they have nothing to eat?

The Ark is a parable, like any other. It didn't really happen. People who strain to look for proof that it did are deluding themselves and should learn what the word "allegory" means.
 
Im starting to see how conservatives believe Glen Beck and Palin. :lol: :ssst:

I am no tea partier nor do I hang on Beck's every word and I am pretty sure most religious or semi-religious are not tea partiers or hang on Beck's every word.
 
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One thing that troubles me about the story of the Ark is that NO plant species were taken on board. If the world were flooded, all land-based plants would be dead in no time. What good is a huge herd of animals when they have nothing to eat?

The Ark is a parable, like any other. It didn't really happen. People who strain to look for proof that it did are deluding themselves and should learn what the word "allegory" means.

Great point! So if it didnt REALLY happen..... what do you feel it means?
 
I just want to know how koalas got from Australia to Noah's ark.

Actually, I have almost an opposite question. How did the koalas get off the Ark to Australia? Did Noah just drop off animals on those continents that God wanted them to be on?

I believe that there was very possibly a Noah, who experienced a flood (that God may or may not have informed him of), and saved his own family and animals. But I don't believe that he lived to be 900, nor do I believe the whole story of Noah and the Ark as in the Bible. I don't think any of that was possible scientifically. Just because I believe in God, doesn't mean that I believe that he goes around violating the laws of nature, especially if there are obviously easier alternatives to doing so.
 
I do believe in the Bible. I do believe in the global flood and Noah's age.
 
THe Bible says this fella Noah lived about 900 years...... built a HUUUUUGE ship and put 2 of EVERY animal on that boat. The logistics of finding not just EVERY animal, but then getting it to the ship..... then not having the animals eat each other.... or eat Noah..... and then you have enough fresh water and FOOD to FEED the animals.......
Well...... what do YOU think?

Well, the way the story is told in the bible... to interpret it as saying that he collected genetic samples of every animal the way it's written is only a stretch because of the notions we have of the people of that time.

Yes, that's highly speculative, but whatever the truth of the matter, if it was region specific he would have collected 2 sheep, 2 goats, 2 cows, or whatever other animal. The reality is that the WORLD OVER, there is not 1 region in the world that doesn't have a flood myth, and either way you look at it, for this to be a local event is HIGHLY suspect, because that would mean that either the world over experienced a simultaneous flood that spawned the various myths, OR that all these cultures spontaneously created a global coherent fiction.

That said, I'm not averse to the concept that what is called 'god' in the bible was more like a super-advanced being that created humanity as a mix of what was there at the time and it's own genetics... I mean, it wouldn't take much for an extra-terrestrial life form to encounter cave men and convince them that they are deities worth worshiping.
 
can you prove he did not?

can you prove he didn't?

According to the Bible, Noah did not 'find' the animals, they came to him.

I guess God couldn't keep animals from eating each other if he didn't want them to, huh

Ever hear the story of the loaves and fish?


That's how easy it is to negate the OP, if you're religious. If you're not, you'll probably think the OP is 'God'. (pun intended)

... reading this post explains why you don't approve of global warming. You are simply unable to assess a situation and draw logical conclusions. In your mind, it is simply impossible to look at facts and let them guide your reasoning. You must be given a preconceived idea and use it as your own. I didn't look at Global Warming and say 'oh, yeah, it's man doing that'. I look at charts, I looked at evidence, proof from pertinent scientists and then I looked at the evidence from the other side and found it lacking. You are essentially complete opposite. You look at the flimsy evidence and hope that it does not contradict your established views. You are proof of what people have been stating about the religious all along. They are simply illogical and backwards people. You look at thunder and you are not able to think past the violence that it brings.

It doesn't even matter if you are religious or not. You're simply a person who is illogical.
 
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Here's the thing. We have these pyramids in Egypt you might have read about them. Had you only read about them and never saw them do you think you would have believed in their existence that many years ago?

Does any one of you in here know exactly how they pyramids were built?
 
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