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  • Im Christian. I believe his age and the Ark

    9 10.84%
  • Im Christian. I dont believe the Ark. I believe his age

    1 1.20%
  • Im Christian. I dont believe his age but I believe the Ark.

    2 2.41%
  • Im Christian. I dont believe EITHER his age nor the Ark.

    10 12.05%
  • Not Christian but I believe both the age and the Ark

    2 2.41%
  • Not Christian and its total and utter rubbish!

    49 59.04%
  • Other / I dont Know

    10 12.05%
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Dude. The idea that an all-powerful deity intervened in your situation but refused to help 61,000 people in similar situations is simply illogical. Thus, your position fails, logically. That IS scientific thinking.
    maybe he intervened because he knew that if he did, I would wind up here communicating with you and might therefore be able to spare you from spending eternity in an imaginary hell?
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I don't consider choosing not to be a scummy douchebag much of a loss.
    Another false dichotomy. You seem to specialize in these. In your book, one must either choose your specific belief paradigm, or be a scummy douchebag.

    Sorry. A false dichotomy = logic fail. There are plenty of non-believers who aren't scummy douchebags. Or, were you directing that at me personally?

    it requires no mental contortions.
    So, all your talk of free radicals....lulz. Whatever keeps you balanced, sunshine.

    how? by spending a few hours in the company of like minded individuals who's company I enjoy? oooh big F-ing loss there
    You couldn't spend your time in that way without your beliefs?

    a significant portion of that goes to help those less fortunate than I and at least this way (instead of theft by the govt) I get to have some say in who my $$$ goes to help.
    In most congregations, the percentage of contributions that goes to serve the least fortunate (unless you consider ministerial staff and their buildings to be "the less fortunate") are quite small.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    maybe he intervened because he knew that if he did, I would wind up here communicating with you and might therefore be able to spare you from spending eternity in an imaginary hell?
    What percentage of those 61k people do you think are currently residing in hell? As stated, your position on this issue fails logically. Your God is an illogical construct of illogical human beings, and requires you to be illogical to suspend your disbelief and maintain your faith.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    No, and if you do believe it then you're either an idiot or delusional.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Dude. The idea that an all-powerful deity intervened in your situation but refused to help 61,000 people in similar situations is simply illogical. Thus, your position fails, logically. That IS scientific thinking.
    By 'your situation', I imagine you are using that figuratively, and not specifically about me, as I've made no such claims.

    In any case, I don't pretend to be wise enough to decide what God would or would not do. I find it highly amusing that others do indeed deem themselves wise enough to do so, or to determine that there simply is no 'God'... simply because they cannot 'prove' it scientifically.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    By 'your situation', I imagine you are using that figuratively, and not specifically about me, as I've made no such claims.
    My bad, I thought I was responding to Oscar. However, the point still stands. It is illogical to make the claim that God intervened to save his life, based on the fact that there were 61,000 episodes in which God did not intervene.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    No, and if you do believe it then you're either an idiot or delusional.
    This is offensive and uncalled for.
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    My bad, I thought I was responding to Oscar. However, the point still stands. It is illogical to make the claim that God intervened to save his life, based on the fact that there were 61,000 episodes in which God did not intervene.
    You're STILL trying to use logic where it doesn't belong. Science and faith are two roads that never intersect... ever. I'm not claiming one is right, or wrong, or better or worse. They are simply different.

    Again, I find it somewhat amusing that some people (not including you in this group unless you include yourself) are 100% certain that God does not exist or does not act, without being able to use the science they prize so highly to prove it one way or the other.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    The thread was started regarding 'belief', not what people think is 'scientifically feasable'.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    No, and if you do believe it then you're either an idiot or delusional.
    It's OK to be delusional. Without our delusions, many of us would suffer from the pangs of reality. IMO, as long as you keep religion out of politics, those kinds of delusions are a safe diversion. Sort of like believing wrestling is real....
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