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  • Im Christian. I believe his age and the Ark

    9 10.84%
  • Im Christian. I dont believe the Ark. I believe his age

    1 1.20%
  • Im Christian. I dont believe his age but I believe the Ark.

    2 2.41%
  • Im Christian. I dont believe EITHER his age nor the Ark.

    10 12.05%
  • Not Christian but I believe both the age and the Ark

    2 2.41%
  • Not Christian and its total and utter rubbish!

    49 59.04%
  • Other / I dont Know

    10 12.05%
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes and there is always a logical explanation for them. A guy surviving a shark attack? It's not God's work. It can be explained by examining his interaction with the shark at the moment of attack. A guy builds a flying machine? It's not because God showed him how to. It's because he understood the physics for such a machine. Something seeming impossible is not the same as something being impossible.
    What if the guy was covered in seals blood, was making the noise of a seal, and right at that moment prayed to God the shark didn't kill him? I don't like this notion that just because science has a place God has no place and vice versa, I believe it is very possible for God and science to co-exist, I have seen it happen before.
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    What if the guy was covered in seals blood, was making the noise of a seal, and right at that moment prayed to God the shark didn't kill him?
    Yes, and that would still be a result of how the actual attack went down. He could pray to a god all he wants but unless there is some evidence to support the notion that God saved him, there's absolutely no evidence that any god of any sort saved him. It's a matter of what is observable. Not what is presumed. I can presume that a leprechaun saved me if I was in the situation but unless I can prove a little green Irish man came out of thin air and did, I have no proof.

    I don't like this notion that just because science has a place God has no place and vice versa, I believe it is very possible for God and science to co-exist, I have seen it happen before.
    Think of it this way. Somebody shoots at you. The bullet misses your head by a few inches. Was it God that pushed the bullet a few inches around your head? No. The other guy missed. It's as simple as that really.
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Actually no, no you don't there is only theories on how long, how many people, what tools were used, etc specifically for the great pyramids and considering how massive the stone was and how far up, there have been theories that go as far as to say they built it background out of the ground. This is why we call the great pyramid a "wonder of the world".
    What exactly do you want to know about the construction of the pyramids?
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    I was tempted to put vote "I don't know", because that's the default position on all things we have no evidence for, but I gathered that what you called "Not Christian and it's total and utter rubbish" was just your way of saying "I don't believe it".

    Either way, I don't believe it.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Divide Noah's age by 12 and you get 75. Which would have been extremely old for his times. They had a different calendar and figured their ages by the phases of the moon.

    Historians have placed a great change in the local seas during Noah's time. All that rain caused a big mud slide that dumped much of the Caspian Sea (or some other local sea) into the area. Noah built the Ark and took upon it many animals. The problem comes from the fact that His flood did not cover the whole earth. just what people of that era considered to be the whole earth. Therefore we are not all descendants of Noah.

    It's a nice Bible story. I try not to beat it up too much.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    As with any such story, I would say that to reconcile the more fantastical elements with what we know today, all a Christian really has to do is believe that the ancient texts in the old testament were crafted according to what people could understand then, and the allegorical nature of such stories does not have to be taken literally in order to remain consistent with one's faith.
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    The Ark as a physical object would have been impossible. Physically, the thing couldnt have floated.
    whether you are a "believer" or not, it is just plain ignorant to claim that a physical object such as the ark would have been impossible. given the description in the bible, it would have been very possible to build such a vessel. and if a massive metal monstrosity like an aircraft carrier can float, surely a boat made out of gopher wood could have floated.
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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes and there is always a logical explanation for them. A guy surviving a shark attack? It's not God's work.
    We all know that aliens built the pyramids and that the flood drowned Atlantis, which was built utilizing the technology from alien species.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    It's a nice Bible story. I try not to beat it up too much.
    When you think about it, it's not that nice of a story. After all, God was perfectly okay with drowning all the other humans in the flood, because they had become rebellious. Nice God.

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    Re: Do You believe Noah?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    When you think about it, it's not that nice of a story. After all, God was perfectly okay with drowning all the other humans in the flood, because they had become rebellious. Nice God.
    too bad we can't do that with all the scumbags, thugs and criminals running around today.
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