Im Christian. I believe his age and the Ark
Im Christian. I dont believe the Ark. I believe his age
Im Christian. I dont believe his age but I believe the Ark.
Im Christian. I dont believe EITHER his age nor the Ark.
Not Christian but I believe both the age and the Ark
Not Christian and its total and utter rubbish!
Other / I dont Know
The story is probably based on something which really happened, but obviously, it was embellished over time.
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Holy ****, you guys are still discussing this?
My take: It's possible.
Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller
If a god could create the universe then anything could be possible. He could have just had them all walk on top of the water. Or he could have created a flying aircraft for them to be carried on.
But he does none of those things because he is limited by the imagination of the writers of that time.
"We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan
While you make some really good points, I wanted to expand on it if I may, just to show the complete insanity anyone who believes in these stories must suffer from.Originally Posted by Hoplite
The era from which the ark supposedly comes is an erra where the extend of marine transport is hollowed-out logs and reed rafts. There simply was no naval knowledge for Noah to build upon. In order to even contemplate building the ark, Noah and his sons would have to have extensive knowledge of physics, calculus, structural mechanics and analysis. Many of these disciplines were entirely unkown, even in their most rudimentary form, until thousands of years after Noah supposedly lived. Noah would have had to have understood and been able to anticipate the complex effects of roll, pitch, yaw and slamming in rough seas, as well as solving differential equations for bending movement, torque and shear stress. Where did he get this knowledge? He couldn't possibly have had it. Beyond the design elements, how did Noah and his sons learn how to fell a tree and dry it properly to avoid rot and splitting, especially when the largest beams may take years or even decades to properly cure? Where did he get the knowledge and equipment from among the local reed-raft builders to properly steam a plank to bend it into proper position? Some of the beams involved would weigh many tons, how did Noah move them with just his small crew? A fully staffed shipyard in the 19th century would have been overwhelmed with such a task, how did Noah manage?
The largest wooden ships in known history were the six-masted schooners, launched between 1900 and 1909. The largest was the U.S.S. Wyoming, which came in at 329 feet, was banded in iron and they leaked so badly that they were restricted to shallow, calm waters and only on short coastal hauls because their crews often worked to exhaustion with their constant bailing and pumping to keep the ship afloat. How could a ship that was more than 100 feet longer than the largest ship ever built, in an era where no metal banding was available, placed into the worst sea storm in history expect to survive?
Anyone who buys into this is either painfully ignorant or entirely delusional. Or both.
now, for those that misunderstand it as something else, there are those that will accept it as literally true and then those that will dismiss it as false. but both must misunderstand it first, and therefore both must first suffer from the same literalist "delusion."