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Holiday Celebration

Which holiday do you observe/celebrate

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Oh come on, Scrooge.
 
We celebrate Christyulivus at my house. I think my favorite is the airing of grievances, but my kids enjoy receiving gifts and burning stuff.
 
December 26th is my favorite day of the season.

Catz - I love your sig line.
 
I don't think it's controversial even among Christian fundamentalists that Christmas was a holiday adopted from non-Christian traditions. People apply whatever meaning they want to it. Pagans did, Christians do, Atheists do, Jews do, etc, etc.

I agree, most holidays have been taken over by corporate interests, and I'm sure that few of them would exist without this support (valentines day is a good example, so is the chocolate aspect of Easter, etc, etc).

Conservatives; if the Bible is your constitution then Christmas is your New Deal :lol:

Have a fantastic day people!
 
O_Guru said:
I agree 100% but again Im no majority voice but what you state above is definitely what Ive encountered with friends and family

seems that other poster thinks you have "wishful thinking" lol I totally disagree, while I acknowledge you or I could be wrong what we both said is not crazy or wishful thnking it very well could be reality.
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What other posters think is irrelevant, only what is actually true matters. Lots of people wish this was a Christian nation, lots of people wish religion mattered more than it does. What one wishes has little bearing on what actually is.
 
Cephus said:
What other posters think is irrelevant, only what is actually true matters.
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Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
 
Harshaw said:
Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
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I'd say that a substantial percentage of Americans celebrate Santa Claus, presents, Christmas trees, and that's about it.

I'm a good example. I LOVE Christmas carols, but they are simply an old tradition to me, nothing more.
 
Harshaw said:
Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
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unless you have a very loos meaning of religious overtones id say you are the one with wishful thinking. Like i said earlier if it enough to just tell kids, if they ask to say its when christ was born or have a nativity set or they go to an extra mass or what ever their church may do then I guess you can consider yourself right. But I dont know anybody that does more than the aforementioned and those people are in the minority.

Not to mention since the word CELEBRATE was in his sentence, I definitely wouldnt call that celebrating with religion, just saying
minumum you both are over stating your side but in reality Id say he is closer to the truth unless like I already said, you consider the above celebrating with religion
 
Harshaw said:
Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
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Demonstrate that it's staggeringly untrue.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Hanuka, but I practically never participate in the materialistic side of this season. Minimally in the religious side.
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Krissmuss, I don't celebrate the proper spelling either. :2razz:

I can't believe no one has mentioned Festivus for the rest of us this year.
 
More people than there are Christians in the nation celebrate Christmas, somewhere around 95%. Obviously at least some of these people celebrate Christmas without faith in Christ, even if every Christian in the entire nation celebrates solely because of their faith, which is also false.

A significant number of the nifty little traditions come from Pagan traditions, Pope Julius didn't say anything about gift giving when he declared December 25th as the day Christians should celebrate Christ's birth either, that trend remained fairly niche until the modern era.

Evidently, Christmas is a day many people give many different meanings, and the part I find enjoyable about it is spending time with my family and giving to one another, it has nothing to do with faith in Christ, if you want to define Christmas explicitly in those terms then I, as well as a substantial number of other people I'm sure, don't celebrate it.

:peace
 
Cephus said:
Demonstrate that it's staggeringly untrue.
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Demonstrate that it's true. :roll: You made the claim. You said the "overwhelming majority" celebrate with "no religious overtones whatsoever." So, that's at least 70% of celebrants never mentioning or alluding to God or Jesus in the slightest, with no hints of prayer or anything religious "whatsoever."

Good luck with that.
 
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O_Guru said:
unless you have a very loos meaning of religious overtones id say you are the one with wishful thinking. Like i said earlier if it enough to just tell kids, if they ask to say its when christ was born or have a nativity set or they go to an extra mass or what ever their church may do then I guess you can consider yourself right. But I dont know anybody that does more than the aforementioned and those people are in the minority.

Not to mention since the word CELEBRATE was in his sentence, I definitely wouldnt call that celebrating with religion, just saying
minumum you both are over stating your side but in reality Id say he is closer to the truth unless like I already said, you consider the above celebrating with religion
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His words were "overwhelming majority" and "no religious overtones whatsoever."

Attending a service or a mass is indeed celebrating the religion in the holiday.
 
Harshaw said:
His words were "overwhelming majority" and "no religious overtones whatsoever."

Attending a service or a mass is indeed celebrating the religion in the holiday.
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you're welcome to that opinion but IMO I disagree just seems to easy to associate anything with anything then. Ive gone with various people to various religious events (or other events)I wouldnt consider myself celebrating anything with them. just saying,

The point is I dont think you me or whoever gets to decide what celebrating is for others. I think its a majority that do nothing more than I said (I dont know anybody that does anything more) and the people that do those things are a vast minority in my life circles anyway.

Also of that vast minority that "I" know that do those things or even attend a mass "some" of them have said themselves they just go to do it, to be seen, for the social side not to "celebrate" "religiously"

again my disclaimer these are only the people "I" know so take it for what it is but Ill just go on record saying this, I wont say he is right cause he may very well be wron

BUT

if I was making a bet Id put my money on him being closer to reality than I ever would you saying he is "quite staggeringly" wrong and it is "indeed wishful thinking"
 
SirPwn4lot said:


It's not exactly the same question, namely, it only asks those who say Christmas was happier that year, and it is two years old.
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Great, 78% report doing nothing religious and you think this somehow makes what I said wrong?
 
Cephus said:
Great, 78% report doing nothing religious and you think this somehow makes what I said wrong?
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That poll doesn't measure anything relevant to your point. If you think it bolsters what you said, you misunderstand it completely, or you're simply being dishonest.
 
O_Guru said:
you're welcome to that opinion but IMO I disagree just seems to easy to associate anything with anything then. Ive gone with various people to various religious events (or other events)I wouldnt consider myself celebrating anything with them. just saying,

The point is I dont think you me or whoever gets to decide what celebrating is for others. I think its a majority that do nothing more than I said (I dont know anybody that does anything more) and the people that do those things are a vast minority in my life circles anyway.

Also of that vast minority that "I" know that do those things or even attend a mass "some" of them have said themselves they just go to do it, to be seen, for the social side not to "celebrate" "religiously"

again my disclaimer these are only the people "I" know so take it for what it is but Ill just go on record saying this, I wont say he is right cause he may very well be wron

BUT

if I was making a bet Id put my money on him being closer to reality than I ever would you saying he is "quite staggeringly" wrong and it is "indeed wishful thinking"
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Well, you know what? No matter what else you want to call it, attending a religious service is, indisputably, a "religious overtone." So yeah, wishful thinking.
 
Harshaw said:
Well, you know what? No matter what else you want to call it, attending a religious service is, indisputably, a "religious overtone." So yeah, wishful thinking.
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uhm guess you missed the part about me saying the vast minority that I know do that so NO my money still rides on him LMAO
 
Harshaw said:
I really don't care who you know; anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

This Christmas, 78% of Americans Identify as Christian

But believe what you want, of course.
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Identifying and being are two different things. In this country, claiming to be a Christian is part of a social identity. If you only counted those people who actually understood what it is that they supposedly believe, go to church regularly, read the Bible, etc. that number would be minuscule. Besides, with 30,000 distinct sects of Christianity out there, many of whom consider all others to be heretical, how do you define what "Christian" actually means?
 
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