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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    What other posters think is irrelevant, only what is actually true matters.
    Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
    I'd say that a substantial percentage of Americans celebrate Santa Claus, presents, Christmas trees, and that's about it.

    I'm a good example. I LOVE Christmas carols, but they are simply an old tradition to me, nothing more.

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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
    unless you have a very loos meaning of religious overtones id say you are the one with wishful thinking. Like i said earlier if it enough to just tell kids, if they ask to say its when christ was born or have a nativity set or they go to an extra mass or what ever their church may do then I guess you can consider yourself right. But I dont know anybody that does more than the aforementioned and those people are in the minority.

    Not to mention since the word CELEBRATE was in his sentence, I definitely wouldnt call that celebrating with religion, just saying
    minumum you both are over stating your side but in reality Id say he is closer to the truth unless like I already said, you consider the above celebrating with religion
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Correct, which is why it's preposterous to say the "overwhelming majority" celebrate Christmas "with no religious overtones whatsoever." I mean, that's just quite staggeringly untrue, and indeed wishful thinking.
    Demonstrate that it's staggeringly untrue.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Demonstrate that it's staggeringly untrue.


    It's not exactly the same question, namely, it only asks those who say Christmas was happier that year, and it is two years old.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Hanuka, but I practically never participate in the materialistic side of this season. Minimally in the religious side.
    Krissmuss, I don't celebrate the proper spelling either.

    I can't believe no one has mentioned Festivus for the rest of us this year.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I can't believe no one has mentioned Festivus for the rest of us this year.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    More people than there are Christians in the nation celebrate Christmas, somewhere around 95%. Obviously at least some of these people celebrate Christmas without faith in Christ, even if every Christian in the entire nation celebrates solely because of their faith, which is also false.

    A significant number of the nifty little traditions come from Pagan traditions, Pope Julius didn't say anything about gift giving when he declared December 25th as the day Christians should celebrate Christ's birth either, that trend remained fairly niche until the modern era.

    Evidently, Christmas is a day many people give many different meanings, and the part I find enjoyable about it is spending time with my family and giving to one another, it has nothing to do with faith in Christ, if you want to define Christmas explicitly in those terms then I, as well as a substantial number of other people I'm sure, don't celebrate it.


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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Demonstrate that it's staggeringly untrue.
    Demonstrate that it's true. You made the claim. You said the "overwhelming majority" celebrate with "no religious overtones whatsoever." So, that's at least 70% of celebrants never mentioning or alluding to God or Jesus in the slightest, with no hints of prayer or anything religious "whatsoever."

    Good luck with that.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    unless you have a very loos meaning of religious overtones id say you are the one with wishful thinking. Like i said earlier if it enough to just tell kids, if they ask to say its when christ was born or have a nativity set or they go to an extra mass or what ever their church may do then I guess you can consider yourself right. But I dont know anybody that does more than the aforementioned and those people are in the minority.

    Not to mention since the word CELEBRATE was in his sentence, I definitely wouldnt call that celebrating with religion, just saying
    minumum you both are over stating your side but in reality Id say he is closer to the truth unless like I already said, you consider the above celebrating with religion
    His words were "overwhelming majority" and "no religious overtones whatsoever."

    Attending a service or a mass is indeed celebrating the religion in the holiday.
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