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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Identifying and being are two different things. In this country, claiming to be a Christian is part of a social identity. If you only counted those people who actually understood what it is that they supposedly believe, go to church regularly, read the Bible, etc. that number would be minuscule. Besides, with 30,000 distinct sects of Christianity out there, many of whom consider all others to be heretical, how do you define what "Christian" actually means?
    Doesn't matter whether or not they agree with each other.

    You got something better which shows the "overwhelming majority" celebrate with "no religious overtones whatsoever"? Let's see it. You're making bold claims, so let's see what backs it up.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, you know what? No matter what else you want to call it, attending a religious service is, indisputably, a "religious overtone." So yeah, wishful thinking.
    Well I think that would really depend. My sister, for instance, is very religious. And there is no doubt that at her house, there are religious overtones to the celebration of Christmas. Hell, I even go to her church with her and her family for Christmas. But for me personally, there are no religious overtones because I'm an atheist. Even though I go to church that one day out of the year, there is nothing religious to me about Christmas. It's an American holiday which is about friends and family and taking a break from it all. I know a lot of people who will claim some form of Christianity, but they aren't going to church on Christmas or anything like that. They use the holiday more as a family oriented holiday rather than a religious one. Perhaps in their cases there could be religious undertones, but no overtones.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    not being a traditionalist, there's nothing to celebrate, except a good turkey dinner with my wife and good wine.

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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    not being a traditionalist, there's nothing to celebrate, except a good turkey dinner with my wife and good wine.

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    good wine is ALWAYS worth celebrating

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    Re: Holiday Celebration

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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    not being a traditionalist, there's nothing to celebrate, except a good turkey dinner with my wife and good wine.

    ricksfolly
    I like that wording, "not being a traditionalist." Along the same lines, we are not traditionalists and ours is a hearty ham dinner, having had turkey at T-day. The first year after my divorce, the kids got their noses a little out of joint because of no Xmas, but then they returned to school after the break and all their friends were totally into the post-Xmas blues, lots of complaining about family gatherings, presents not good enough, etc. and after that, they never gave me another problem. I suppose though I should admit that we had a special end of school "holiday" around here, when getting things like new toys for the summer break made more sense to me than **** in the middle of the school year when time and attention shouldn't be on new toys.
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I really don't care who you know; anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

    This Christmas, 78% of Americans Identify as Christian

    But believe what you want, of course.
    LMAO!!
    did I say it was, I clearly said many times in this thread I am by no means a majority, actually said those exact words lol I can almost feel you punching your keyboard, dont get your panties in a bunch


    also "identifying" as christian has ZERO to do with it, if I had to pick I identify as a christian but i do nothing religious on the holidays
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Identifying and being are two different things. In this country, claiming to be a Christian is part of a social identity. If you only counted those people who actually understood what it is that they supposedly believe, go to church regularly, read the Bible, etc. that number would be minuscule. Besides, with 30,000 distinct sects of Christianity out there, many of whom consider all others to be heretical, how do you define what "Christian" actually means?
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I think that would really depend. My sister, for instance, is very religious. And there is no doubt that at her house, there are religious overtones to the celebration of Christmas. Hell, I even go to her church with her and her family for Christmas. But for me personally, there are no religious overtones because I'm an atheist. Even though I go to church that one day out of the year, there is nothing religious to me about Christmas. It's an American holiday which is about friends and family and taking a break from it all. I know a lot of people who will claim some form of Christianity, but they aren't going to church on Christmas or anything like that. They use the holiday more as a family oriented holiday rather than a religious one. Perhaps in their cases there could be religious undertones, but no overtones.
    Ikari how dare you think that its YOUR choice on how YOU celebrate and what that celebration means to YOU. You arer silly, its already been decided for YOU by another poster. It doesnt matter that YOU go to church to be with YOUR family and what YOUR feelings are, if YOU went to church YOU are "INDEED" celebrating religiously, YOU dont get a choice nor does YOUR opinion matter!!!!!

    hopefully you picked up on the obvious sarcasm
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    Re: Holiday Celebration

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I really don't care who you know; anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

    This Christmas, 78% of Americans Identify as Christian

    But believe what you want, of course.
    My mother calls herself Christian, but doesn't celebrate Christmas religiously at all. No mass, no prayer, etc.

    Being a Christian and celebrating Christmas religiously are two separate issues.

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