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Thread: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no, that's working backwards; because to send out unemployment benefits means that first you must remove money from the system.

    irrespective, the proof is in the pudding; we have a record number of people on food stamps now; if this claim held truth, then we should be enjoying record prosperity.
    Do the math, I don't see where you come to that conclusion.


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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, that's not what she's arguing. How do you guys get so much wrong?
    Yes it is, and you know it. Pelosi is as dumb as a sack of hammers. She could be more stupid unless she was Maxine Waters. You think she's smarter the John F Kennedy? Well do ya boy?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do the math, I don't see where you come to that conclusion.
    No one is surprised that you don't know that we have a record of people on food stamps.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yes those things do help the economy, unemployment, and food stamps are these people's only income and they will spend all of it, and put that money back into the economy. It increases demand, which is what will get us out of these hard times, because demand is extremely low.
    Then all 330 million of us should go on unemployment and foodstamps and within a few months, our economy would be booming again.

    Listening to this stuff is like someone telling a child if they jump up and down outside they'll make diamonds by packing down the dirt outside. It's truly hilarious, the amount of delusion people have an then try to convince others.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You don't want to answer. Fine.
    The answer is more complicated than a yes/no answer. I've answered this TWICE. Just because you dont LIKE the answer...

    That's correct, what you do does not make up the person you are. Just because someone's a plumber doesn't define them. I'm not oversimplifying anything, I'm actually taking a much more complex view of human behavior. An oversimplification is your view, in which what a person does defines who they are and is inseparable. That's ludicrous.
    What you do IS part of who you are, but it isnt entirely who you are. It's still a part of you though, so hating what someone does, in my opinion, is hating part of them.
    I'm Done

    See my last post

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Then all 330 million of us should go on unemployment and foodstamps and within a few months, our economy would be booming again.

    Listening to this stuff is like someone telling a child if they jump up and down outside they'll make diamonds by packing down the dirt outside. It's truly hilarious, the amount of delusion people have an then try to convince others.
    You're completely missing the economic reasoning behind this. It's giving these people an income, in which they otherwise wouldn't have an income. They generally spend all of this income they receive, and it increases demand in the economy. If you already have an income, and you're spending money, you're contributing to demand in the economy, these unemployment, and food stamps are just giving more people means to contribute to the demand. If they didn't receive these, then demand would be lower. It's not that hard to understand.
    Last edited by Your Star; 12-03-10 at 11:04 PM.

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do the math, I don't see where you come to that conclusion.
    if food stamps boosted the economy.... and we have a record number of food stamps.... we should be seeing, i don't know, some "boosting" occuring.

    instead we are seeing some plateauing.




    government expenditures don't have a higher multiplier than private investment. :sorry: it's just that simple. you can argue that it's a necessary part of a social safety net if you want to, or that it's something that we should do. but you can't argue realistically that it boosts the economy.

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Then all 330 million of us should go on unemployment and foodstamps and within a few months, our economy would be booming again
    lol hooray! we have the golden ticket to endless prosperity!

    Listening to this stuff is like someone telling a child if they jump up and down outside they'll make diamonds by packing down the dirt outside. It's truly hilarious, the amount of delusion people have an then try to convince others.
    no no no, this will work! animal spirits will never stop making profit and we can all get rich printing money that will never devalue!

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    You're completely missing the economic reasoning behind this. It's giving these people an income, in which they otherwise wouldn't have an income.
    that is where we disagree. these people would not stop eating simply because they got fired.

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that is where we disagree. these people would not stop eating simply because they got fired.
    That's not really the argument. The argument is whether or not these help the economy, and they do. They increase demand.

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