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Thread: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Unemployment benefits/food-stamps immediately create more demand, more demand requires more workers. It's as they say "Not rocket science.'"
    no, that's working backwards; because to send out unemployment benefits means that first you must remove money from the system.

    irrespective, the proof is in the pudding; we have a record number of people on food stamps now; if this claim held truth, then we should be enjoying record prosperity.
    Last edited by cpwill; 12-03-10 at 08:49 PM.

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I did read it again, and my previous comments still stands.
    Again, I dont think she's 100% right or wrong. I think these social programs ultimately benefit society in the end by keeping people working, I dont know if it's an exact return rate similar to what she mentioned though.

    Why you're doing it is separate from who you are, or are you arguing that since in your example, your a thief and that everyone has to accept your stealing as part of you, and shouldn't separate your bad actions from the person you are. Therefore, since you do bad things, your a bad person. Is that what you want?
    You are trying to over-simplify. Human behavior is driven, in part, by who YOU are. You cannot completely separate a person's actions from themselves, you are trying to disavow people's responsibility in their actions by saying "Oh that isnt part of you, that isnt really you."

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Religious people of every persuasion are fine. Athiests and agnostics are fine. In fact everyone in the whole world is fine with one exception. American Leftists are not fine.
    That sounds like a personal problem to me.
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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Hoplite: Ever buy soda with foodstamps?
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Hoplite: Ever buy soda with foodstamps?
    I dont really drink soda anymore. I have on two occasions that I can remember. One was for a recipe the other was when someone in our house was sick. Other than that, I dont drink soda.
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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by hoplite
    i dont really drink soda anymore. I have on two occasions that i can remember. One was for a recipe the other was when someone in our house was sick. Other than that, i dont drink soda.
    You worthless lazy leech on society grrrrrrr you make me so maddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Yes those things do help the economy, unemployment, and food stamps are these people's only income and they will spend all of it, and put that money back into the economy. It increases demand, which is what will get us out of these hard times, because demand is extremely low.

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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Again, I dont think she's 100% right or wrong. I think these social programs ultimately benefit society in the end by keeping people working, I dont know if it's an exact return rate similar to what she mentioned though.
    You don't want to answer. Fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    You are trying to over-simplify. Human behavior is driven, in part, by who YOU are. You cannot completely separate a person's actions from themselves, you are trying to disavow people's responsibility in their actions by saying "Oh that isnt part of you, that isnt really you."
    That's correct, what you do does not make up the person you are. Just because someone's a plumber doesn't define them. I'm not oversimplifying anything, I'm actually taking a much more complex view of human behavior. An oversimplification is your view, in which what a person does defines who they are and is inseparable. That's ludicrous.
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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    irrespective, the proof is in the pudding; we have a record number of people on food stamps now; if this claim held truth, then we should be enjoying record prosperity.
    Faulty logic due to oversimplification. You guys say lower taxes improve the economy. The last few years you have paid less taxes than you ever have before. Therefore, by conservative economic theory we should have the best economy ever! Also, 0% tax rates would make SUPER UTOPIAAAAA!

    It's more complicated than that, and you damn well know it.
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    Re: Your view: Food Stamps and Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no, that's working backwards; because to send out unemployment benefits means that first you must remove money from the system.

    irrespective, the proof is in the pudding; we have a record number of people on food stamps now; if this claim held truth, then we should be enjoying record prosperity.
    You have to understand the difference between economic activity and wealth creation

    Food stamps could very well create $2 of economic activity for every dollar spent, and yet generate no wealth. ( wealth can be generated for the food producers though)

    Economic activity will not automatically generate wealth, but keeps the economy "working"
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