View Poll Results: What should be done about unemployment benefits?

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  • Extend them through deficit spending

    14 21.54%
  • Extend them, but pay for them with unpaid stimulus/tarp funds

    19 29.23%
  • Don't extend them, it is unregulated welfare

    22 33.85%
  • Other, Explain:

    8 12.31%
  • Don't you touch my unemployment benefits!!

    2 3.08%
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Thread: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Highly skilled lawyers do not always make for highly skilled waiters
    then they are free to leave; it's not like they couldn't hire a theater major (who would make an excellent waiter) to do it.

    A recent grad of course would be different then a lawyer with 10 years of practice behind him wanting the same position. One is just out of school, and most likely still has the attitude that would make for a good waiter. One that has worked in the field for 10 years is another story
    that's completely up to individual attitude, not skill-set.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    There's no such thing as underemployment. People are employed in the best job they can find at the time. If they were a lawyer and now are getting paid $10 per hour it is because their services as a lawyer are no longer worthwhile. Demands change, and production needs to match it.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    in the meantime, i've had three of my fellow Marines not be able to make that turn; two shot themselves and a third drove his car head first into an 18 wheeler at about 85mph....
    just realized i forgot one; my first team leader drank and drugged himself to death a year after he got out. damn, now i feel like a ****bag, sorry brandon.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Lets see...... what the difference between a DING on the ol paycheck
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    Realizing you could lose your ****ING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good people that have done the best they can in thier life are losing thier HOME because of the lack of extended unemplyment benefitss. Unemplyment is at 9.8% in Illinois. Are you saying SCREW THEM?????????????
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Depends on the circumstances. Ordinarily, no, it doesn't create jobs because it discourages people from working. But when unemployment is above 9% that's really not a problem. There are plenty of people who want to work who can't find jobs. So unemployment insurance will increase their purchasing power which will stimulate the economy, without as many of the typical negative effects (discouraging productivity).

    Should we keep these unemployment benefit extensions in place for all time? No, most definitely not. But are they a good idea right here and now to stimulate the economy, while alleviating the hardships placed on those who are out of work? Yes.
    This is total bull****, and you don't know it. The people you took the money from to pay out the unemployment benefits can just as easily spend the money and stimulate the economy. Learn to think.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    There's no such thing as underemployment. People are employed in the best job they can find at the time. If they were a lawyer and now are getting paid $10 per hour it is because their services as a lawyer are no longer worthwhile. Demands change, and production needs to match it.
    But what you're forgetting is the costs involved in for that lawyer to train as a lawyer. Which means they've likely gone into debt to get that training, but won't be able to pay that debt back working a $10 an hour wage.

    On one hand, I agree with you about the changes in demand. But despite changes in demand of different job markets, the costs of that person's education is still retained.

    So the question I have is how can changing and fluctuating job markets, and the wages and salaries of someone in that job market makes, get in tune with the costs of educating and training someone for that job market?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Lets see...... what the difference between a DING on the ol paycheck
    ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR
    Realizing you could lose your ****ING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good people that have done the best they can in thier life are losing thier HOME because of the lack of extended unemplyment benefitss. Unemplyment is at 9.8% in Illinois. Are you saying SCREW THEM?????????????
    Actually, people are losing their homes because of shady mortgage companies more than because of a lack of unemployment benefits.

    But I know what you mean.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    One choice should have been, "REPEAL THEM." Unemployment benefits are among the tons of things any government should never be doing.

    Charity is NOT a legitimate function of government. It should be done solely by charities, churches, and other private entities.
    Yeah, the way it used to be....but sometimes events occur that are beyond the abilities of charities.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Lets see...... what the difference between a DING on the ol paycheck
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    Realizing you could lose your ****ING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    been there, done that. when the business i was working for after college turned out to have been run by a thieving tax-cheating rotten (well, you get the picture), and shut down, i had already been working for a month-ish without pay, and what little savings i'd kept (i was stupid) had been depleted after another month. I had to move back in with my parents for a little bit while i waited to ship off to boot camp (that was my solution).

    Good people that have done the best they can in thier life are losing thier HOME because of the lack of extended unemplyment benefitss.
    no, people are at risk of losing their homes because they haven't secured the incomes necessary to keep making the mortgage payments. that could be an income issue (they haven't gotten and saved enough income), or it could be an outgo issue (they got more house than they could easily keep).

    it's no more the fault of those not extending unemployment benefits than it is my parents fault for not giving me an extra grand or two so i could have kept my townhouse.

    but it is typical of the entitlement mentality. the government has already extended to these people 99 weeks of sustenance. that's a hair shy of two years. but no matter how much they are given, they complain because they aren't given more.

    that's what you do to your fellow Americans when you put them on entitlement programs; you turn them from self-reliant individuals into those who blame others for not taking care of them better.

    Unemplyment is at 9.8% in Illinois. Are you saying SCREW THEM?
    people in sub-sahara Africa live on less than a dollar a day. yet you haven't sold everything you own and passed to them the proceeds; choosing to live in a hut exposed to the elements as they do. why? are you saying screw them?
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    There's no such thing as underemployment. People are employed in the best job they can find at the time. If they were a lawyer and now are getting paid $10 per hour it is because their services as a lawyer are no longer worthwhile. Demands change, and production needs to match it.
    hmmm you don't think an argument can be made for those not working full time who seek to be? it seems to toss that out tosses out unemployment alltogether.

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