View Poll Results: What should be done about unemployment benefits?

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  • Extend them through deficit spending

    14 21.54%
  • Extend them, but pay for them with unpaid stimulus/tarp funds

    19 29.23%
  • Don't extend them, it is unregulated welfare

    22 33.85%
  • Other, Explain:

    8 12.31%
  • Don't you touch my unemployment benefits!!

    2 3.08%
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Thread: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I've been wanting them to end these benefits for over a year. It serves little purpose but to endorse and further entitlement. There are too many people using it as an excuse not to look for a job. Hell, I know this just anecdotally, because I know a few people on the dole that are working hard not to get off of it. It's essentially legalized theft, and it's getting out of hand.

    If you've been phased out of your current job, you should learn a new skill set instead of just waiting for if and when something you were doing suddenly pops up again. Some people really need the tough love, or else they'll get used to coddling.

    And if a few eggs break, so be it. The sum is greater than its parts.
    Well, to be fair, I don't mind unemployment benefits. It's just that I don't like drawn out unemployment benefits.

    Unemployment benefits are good for when someone is between jobs. But it shouldn't sustain people through bad economies. Rather, they should have to adapt to the job market.

    But it also sucks because there's so much require of a person to get qualified for a job. People need at least a 2-year degree, most likely a 4-year degree, and that doesn't count more technical jobs, such as engineering or medical occupations. And it sucks even more when someone has to get a student loan to pay back that education, despite the fact that wages may not meet the ability to pay back those loans.

    But they can't stay on the dole forever, and the world needs plenty of bartenders.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    The problem I have with the saying "it increases the purchasing power of people", is then why not apply to it all people, working or not? Heck, if I had an extra "XXX" dollars, I could afford to buy some woodworking tools that I am still saving for. It is not a purchase of need (food, shelter), but it would still put money into the economy, provide jobs for those that make the tools, etc. At what point do we say enough is enough for unemployment checks. It also tells me at this point in time we have too many people in this country if almost 10% are unemployed.
    Chances are that the people who have the least income (i.e. the unemployed) will be the most likely to spend the money, because they pretty much have to in order to pay for their basic living expenses.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Does anyone agree with outgoing Speaker Pelosi on this statement today?
    House GOP Balks at Middle-Class Tax Cut Vote Scheduled Thursday - FoxNews.com
    ...unemployment insurance grows the economy and creates jobs.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Anyone that votes DONT PASS the extension needs a dose of my reality. And something to get rid of your exteme ignorance.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Does anyone agree with outgoing Speaker Pelosi on this statement today?
    House GOP Balks at Middle-Class Tax Cut Vote Scheduled Thursday - FoxNews.com
    I agree with the following:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The Democratic position is correct in this case. Extending unemployment benefits is one of the best forms of fiscal stimulus out there, because it increases the purchasing power of people who otherwise wouldn't have any.


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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    For those who are just avoiding the inevitable and who can (if they so are coerced) still make it - yes, I agree - end their benefits (at least reduce them)

    But what about people who absolutely can't make it without them, even now?
    What about people who live in an area that was hit hard and the only way to get out of it is to *move* out of it . . .but don't have enough money or the other means to make it happen?

    If benefits are to be cut then what other help will be given? Will anyone be given assistance in finding a job, selling their home, moving, getting a vehicle - and so on?

    All the bailouts, stimulus and crap like that going on for all these years - I really don't like the idea of just dumping some decent people off the bus, you know?
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    pay people not to work? why, whatever could go wrong with that idea?


    Kill unemployment benefits. not just for this batch. do it completely at the federal level. let the states engage in this idiocy if they must.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Chances are that the people who have the least income (i.e. the unemployed) will be the most likely to spend the money, because they pretty much have to in order to pay for their basic living expenses.
    and that stimulates the economy how? So basically the bank that holds the title of the house, or owns the building they are renting, utility companies and food benifits. Seems that limits the growth of the economy to a very small sector.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    pay people not to work? why, whatever could go wrong with that idea?


    Kill unemployment benefits. not just for this batch. do it completely at the federal level. let the states engage in this idiocy if they must.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    For those who are just avoiding the inevitable and who can (if they so are coerced) still make it - yes, I agree - end their benefits (at least reduce them)

    But what about people who absolutely can't make it without them, even now?
    What about people who live in an area that was hit hard and the only way to get out of it is to *move* out of it . . .but don't have enough money or the other means to make it happen?

    If benefits are to be cut then what other help will be given? Will anyone be given assistance in finding a job, selling their home, moving, getting a vehicle - and so on?

    All the bailouts, stimulus and crap like that going on for all these years - I really don't like the idea of just dumping some decent people off the bus, you know?
    A friend of mine spent most of his money on going to film school, and he only barely had enough to ship some (not all) to California and move there to get a job.

    On one hand I can sympathize to areas hit hard by the recession in which there is no economic growth going on. On the other hand continuing unemployment benefits won't help them either, since it doesn't guarantee economic vitalization of that area.

    What should be done about it? I'm not sure. Maybe government loans to the businesses in the area to develop it for economic revitalization, perhaps? Instead of using an area for a manufacturing area, perhaps take government assistance to develop an agricultural economic base? Such a thing, I would be more in favor of rather than continuing with unemployment benefits. I would rather government money go to pay people to produce something rather than just give them money on which to get by.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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