View Poll Results: What should be done about unemployment benefits?

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  • Extend them through deficit spending

    14 21.54%
  • Extend them, but pay for them with unpaid stimulus/tarp funds

    19 29.23%
  • Don't extend them, it is unregulated welfare

    22 33.85%
  • Other, Explain:

    8 12.31%
  • Don't you touch my unemployment benefits!!

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Thread: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Unemployment is insurance. We pay for it. It is not free nor is it an entitlement.
    When you extend past what the insurance is supposed to cover then it becomes an entitlement.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Don't extend them. Stop collecting unemployment tax all together. When people are unemployed it is not the government's business to provide for them. Likewise, it is not the employed man's responsibility to provide for the unemployed. Many people on unenjoyment CHOOSE not to work. Last I checked, there's a job available for about everybody willing to pick up a hammer. One might even need to relocate but apparently, the government is required to provide jobs to everybody in their most desired location.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by dadrone View Post
    Don't extend them. Stop collecting unemployment tax all together. When people are unemployed it is not the government's business to provide for them. Likewise, it is not the employed man's responsibility to provide for the unemployed. Many people on unenjoyment CHOOSE not to work. Last I checked, there's a job available for about everybody willing to pick up a hammer. One might even need to relocate but apparently, the government is required to provide jobs to everybody in their most desired location.
    And if those hammer swingers get hungry enough, they will hammer down your door, steal your food, and haul you off to a rope and a tree. The french did it, precedence has been set...

    But I am in agreement with you about relocating...all of our unemployed should move to Texas. I hear they have a lot of job openings, one of the conservatives here on DP says so..
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    And if those hammer swingers get hungry enough, they will hammer down your door, steal your food, and haul you off to a rope and a tree. The french did it, precedence has been set...
    That's why we have the second amendment.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by dadrone View Post
    That's why we have the second amendment.
    Interestingly enough, those who will do the things that UtahBill stated, have the same rights under the 2nd Amendment.

    Your position on this is unrealistic and does not take into consideration that behavior is not isolated in a vacuum. What happens to one affects others. That is reality.
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by dadrone View Post
    That's why we have the second amendment.
    again, France....the average French citizen had no weapons, yet the kingdom fell along with many royal heads...
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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    And if those hammer swingers get hungry enough, they will hammer down your door, steal your food, and haul you off to a rope and a tree. The french did it, precedence has been set...
    The French economy wasn't exactly very capitalist at the outset of the French Revolution. We don't get famines like that in this country anymore. Thank you economic progress.

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your position on this is unrealistic and does not take into consideration that behavior is not isolated in a vacuum. What happens to one affects others. That is reality.
    So where is the evidence of mass starvation in the United States in the 19th century?

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    Re: Unemployment benefits: who's right?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    The French economy wasn't exactly very capitalist at the outset of the French Revolution. We don't get famines like that in this country anymore. Thank you economic progress.
    Droughts will trump capitalism and any other form of economy/governement, etc...
    we had our dustbowl years. We didn't have mass starvation, but we did have mass migration away from the plains states.
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