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    Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    It is inconceivable to me that the United States government doesn't just shut down WikiLeaks wherever it pops up on the net when they are compromising the security of our country by posting secret government files.

    When Top Secret documents are being posted for everyone to see, when lives are compromised, when our diplomatic hands are being tied, isn't this a massive threat to our national security?

    It's one thing to leak corporate dirt...it's quite another to leak top secret government files.

    Why isn't our government shutting down WikiLeaks?
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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is inconceivable to me that the United States government doesn't just shut down WikiLeaks wherever it pops up on the net when they are compromising the security of our country by posting secret government files.

    When Top Secret documents are being posted for everyone to see, when lives are compromised, when our diplomatic hands are being tied, isn't this a massive threat to our national security?

    It's one thing to leak corporate dirt...it's quite another to leak top secret government files.

    Why isn't our government shutting down WikiLeaks?
    They are not shutting them down for a few reasons.

    1: The servers are more than likely not based in the US. Because of this the US cannot legally shut them down. Unless of course they have the hosting countries government do it for them. This is of course assuming that said government would do it.

    2: Even if they were to shut wikileaks down all that they would have to do is switch to a different server. There are probably millions of servers available in the world so probably wouldn't do much good.

    3: Wikileaks sends the info that they get to various news agencies in various countries. So it wouldn't do any good to shut them down for the simple fact that the news agencies would just be reporting on it anyways.

    4: Even if all of the above were not true there is the problem of public perception. By shutting down wikileaks even more people would start to wonder just what it is that our government is hiding from its people. People would start asking harder questions and demanding answers.

    The only thing that our government could do is to make their classified information security tougher and go after the people that leak the information to begin with. Taking out the secondary reporting agencies does nothing if you have not taking out the first cause of the leaks. Especially since those that are the first cause could just send the info to someone else.
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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Security training is a regular occurance for all Fed employees. Reduction in the amount of classified information would help, along with reduction in the number of copies of classified information. You can bet that SIPRNET will get a work over. OPSEC needs to be applied vigorously. Manning needs to be hung.
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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    hmmm explain to me how releasing a video of an Apache helicopter gunning down kids in a van is a security risks to us?
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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why isn't our government shutting down WikiLeaks?
    Because we're not China.
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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Because we're not China.
    Well, maybe we are, 'cause we shut down child porn sites all the time. And now, we'll start shutting down those who make money by infringing on copyright laws.
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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Even if things aren't part of national security, it doesn't necessarily mean that they belong in the hands of the public. To tie a governing body's hands - any governing body - by disallowing it to have any clandestine activities is essentially opening it up to sabotage.

    You should see how they address treason in the Constitution. Jefferson shot people at the White House for such a violation.

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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, maybe we are, 'cause we shut down child porn sites all the time. And now, we'll start shutting down those who make money by infringing on copyright laws.
    Depends on where those "child porn" sites are at. In America not so much. We try to get into the whole bittorrent thing and such too. Which overall is really stupid, wasteful, and time consuming. Probably shouldn't be to hardcore into busting college punks who d/l the new Metalica song. But whatever. As much as we can say about censorship on thise aspects, this is another level of information control. I'd rather we stay as far away as possible from information control.
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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is inconceivable to me that the United States government doesn't just shut down WikiLeaks wherever it pops up on the net when they are compromising the security of our country by posting secret government files.

    When Top Secret documents are being posted for everyone to see, when lives are compromised, when our diplomatic hands are being tied, isn't this a massive threat to our national security?

    It's one thing to leak corporate dirt...it's quite another to leak top secret government files.

    Why isn't our government shutting down WikiLeaks?
    because we are wimps. Wikileaks should be shut down, those who sold or gave away the secrets should be tried and shot, and assange should become despondent about the whole thing and commit suicide by shooting himself in the head...... twice.

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    Re: Should the U.S. government shut down WikiLeaks?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Security training is a regular occurance for all Fed employees. Reduction in the amount of classified information would help, along with reduction in the number of copies of classified information. You can bet that SIPRNET will get a work over. OPSEC needs to be applied vigorously. Manning needs to be hung.
    yup; the downside is that it's going to make it alot harder for those of us who actually work on the damn thing to do research.

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