German guy
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ROTFLOL... CDU/CSU! LOL...
As you pointed out way back when, Schroeder started some economic reforms... Obama isn't cut from that cloth. He couldn't cut a sheet of paper.
Germany has over 100-years of entrenched socialism, and a press hostile to the free market. I recall Kirchoff's effect in 2005(?). It was an incredible sight. So, if someone wants a political future, they have to support socialist healthcare. Only when it gets so bad and collapses will there be change. With the slowing population growth, masses of retirees, economic pressures from emerging nations, it might take a couple more decades. It would require a long, slow slog to change minds... it'll be faster to watch the mess collapse.
CDU/CSU... no chance... Merkel lectured Obama on his spending. SPD? perhaps... he'd be on the far left of their docket. Die Linke is his home. Obi, Gysi and Lafontaine would have a heck of a good time together. I think he'd have pulled a Lafontaine... been a member of the SPD and leave the party for his real home.
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Hey zimmer, good to see you! How have you been doing? Are you still in Germany these days?
And I'm relieved we still disagree ... :lol:
You're right, Germany has a strong social democratic tradition (not actually "socialist"), for example, the Social Democrats established a constitutional state and a free, republican Constitution in 1919, they used force to crack down on revolutionary communist and socialist uprisings in Weimar and were the only party to vote against Hitler's Enabling Act in 1933 -- with such a great history, how could the Germans not be proud of social democracy? eace
I don't think Obama is that radical as you say he is. At least President Obama isn't, maybe law student Obama once was.
Btw, what do you think of "yes we Cem!"-Özdemir?