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Did the Republicans win the midterms...

Did the Republicans win the midterms... decisively?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 69.7%
  • No

    Votes: 10 30.3%

  • Total voters
    33
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Did the Republicans win the midterms... "decisively"?

Yes.
No.

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In terms of numbers, yes, I think so.

In terms of ideology?

It depends on what ideology you are thinking of.

I think there are some competing ideologies in the Republican Party at the moment. Which one or ones win out will have an as yet unknown effect on the next election.
 
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without being cute it depends on how you define win

short term yes but by not winning the senate they might have won more for 2012.
 
without being cute it depends on how you define win

short term yes but by not winning the senate they might have won more for 2012.

It was a huge win when measured from the asskicking setback they got in 08. You have to look at governorships and state houses, which many ignore.
 
It was a huge win when measured from the asskicking setback they got in 08. You have to look at governorships and state houses, which many ignore.

the most important gain was the reapportionment power following the census. Here in ohio two house seats migrate to Texas etc

suspect close GOP seats will be made safer.
 
Did the Republicans win the midterms... "decisively"?

Yes.
No.

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To be honest, and without being cute, I think the reason why the Republicans won the House in '10 is the same reason why the Democrats won the House in '08 - the economy.

I think Americans are wanting a better economy. Have Democrats provided it? No. Will the Republicans be able to? We'll see.

On one hand, I have to hand it to those like Rand Paul for suggesting they may cut military spending. If we're going to cut government spending, it should also be for the pork that Republicans subsidize as well as the pork Democrats subsidize.

But time will tell if they'll put their money where their mouth is, and the decisions they make will determine the outcome in '12.

So to answer your question, no, I don't think they won decisively, not any more than the Democrats did in '08.
 
without being cute it depends on how you define win

short term yes but by not winning the senate they might have won more for 2012.

I think there is a better than even chance Harry Reid lost the election and only won the count.

He was down in the polls by 4 points prior to the voting yet won by 5 points, and the exit polling showed him losing.

I think if his son were not in charge of the process he would have lost and I can't understand why there is not a major scandal over this along with SEIU possibly rigging the voting machines.

There has been trouble in every election in Nevada since they went with the first Diebold machines about 10 years ago. Elections have been fixed or rigged call it what you will since that first one, but this time there is nothing even being said about it.

The republicans didn't win big the American people did and largely because of the efforts of the Tea Party in spite of the Liberal name calling and lies.

If you're a liberal you get a pass for lies and name calling even here.
 
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Please note...... the Tea Party IS the Republican Party. People say the Tea Party won but I feel they are one in the same. Either way, YES of course they won.
 
Please note...... the Tea Party IS the Republican Party. People say the Tea Party won but I feel they are one in the same. Either way, YES of course they won.
Hmmm...

I was under the impression that the "Tea Party" (which in my understanding is not actually a political party as of yet, but rather a collection of more localized groups) was not directly part of the Republican Party - although it might be indirectly.

But then, I never looked into the "Tea Party" in any great detail.
 
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The republicans didn't win big the American people did and largely because of the efforts of the Tea Party in spite of the Liberal name calling and lies.

If you're a liberal you get a pass for lies and name calling even here.

What a pathetic statement. You arent objective at ALL.
OK.... now withOUT Googling anything what are these Lies?
Do YOU feel that the conservatives didnt lie? You YOU feel the conservatives DIDNT name-call?
I cant wait to hear what your response is. :coffeepap
 
Please note...... the Tea Party IS the Republican Party. People say the Tea Party won but I feel they are one in the same. Either way, YES of course they won.

Err, no they aren't. The Tea Party is a faction within the Republican Party that is a combination of paleo-conservatives and libertarians. Moderate and neo-conservative Republicans aren't really a party of the Tea Party.
 
Err, no they aren't. The Tea Party is a faction within the Republican Party that is a combination of paleo-conservatives and libertarians. Moderate and neo-conservative Republicans aren't really a party of the Tea Party.

My HARDCORE conservative friends at 1st were VERY put off about the Tea Party. They felt they were going to split the vote. Then 3 months ago they all changed their attitude and said the TP was GOOD for the Reps. They (and I) strongly feel that the TP was really another Chapter in which they would advocate Republicans to get elected.
I strongly feel the TP was hijacked about a year and a half ago BY the Reps. I also feel Conservatives put HUGE money into the TP and Karl Rove among others had Glenn Beck and Palin "speak" for the TP in order to boost Republican votes in the Mid-terms.
You can call a TP member a Tea Party candidate or a Republican but to me its one in the same.
Either way you can NOT ignore that Republicans won the mid-terms with a huge help from the TP. I have 100% faith that a member of the TP would NEVER vote for a Democrat.
It was a MASSIVE (and successful) move by the republicans..... PURE GENIUS if you ask me.... to encourage and fund the TP. I wish to heck I saved the things Ive read regarding the factual backing of the TP. I have also listened to Hannity almost every day..... Limbaugh every 3 days and various other conservative talkers now and again.... that embraced the TP. Sometimes it was direct. But 85% of the time it was in a very "marketable" way where they didnt DIRECTLY support them.
I even spoke to the head of the Libertarian Party for the Chicago area and he said.... without even hesitating..... that the Republicans took over the TP over 1 year ago.

To me the REAL TP was with Ron Paul.
Anyhow, and bottom line..... it was marketing at its best. It was beautiful to see the slow transformation from the Ron Paul days to the Glenn Beck transformation.
I was ACTUALLY....*GASP* part of the Tea Party when us Ron Paul supporters were together. Even after the election. I left after I saw the markings on the wall.
 
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Hmmm...

I was under the impression that the "Tea Party" (which in my understanding is not actually a political party as of yet, but rather a collection of more localized groups) was not directly part of the Republican Party - although it might be indirectly.

But then, I never looked into the "Tea Party" in any great detail.

Don't worry, they aren't the same.
 
Err, no they aren't. The Tea Party is a faction within the Republican Party that is a combination of paleo-conservatives and libertarians. Moderate and neo-conservative Republicans aren't really a party of the Tea Party.

So what you're saying is that being a faction within the Republican Party means you're not the Republican Party. Well, that makes sense. Do you think 'Moderate' and 'Neo-Conservative' Republicans weren't hoping the Tea Party Republicans would win? Seriously. You're splitting hairs. Show me what is even remotely ideologically different between 'Neo-Conservative Republicans' and 'Tea Partiers' and maybe you'd be somewhat right. The Tea Party is a marketing tool for people who don't want to be called Republicans even though they have the exact same possitions. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
Did the Republicans win the midterms... "decisively"?

Yes.
No.

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No. As polls show, the American public has the same contemptuous view of the Republicans as they have of the Democrats. Furthermore, the public has made it explicitly clear they want compromise, not the Republicans to enforce their agenda alone. Not to mention that the largest bloc of voters want more jobs, not deficit cutting.

The Republicans did not "win" this election, the Democrats gave it to them. The Republicans did not provide actual solutions as their Pledge is incredibly fuzzy math that when calculated is impossible to meet their goals. Furthermore, the Republicans don't even have a cohesive overall strategy, claiming Obamcare will cut Medicare and then turning around to want to cut medicare themselves.

In terms of numbers, yes the Republicans won. But in terms of ideology, public support and actual plans, they are just as lost, hopeless and flailing around without direction as the Democrats aside from blocking any bill that may help Obama despite the damage to America. Case in Point: Russian nuclear agreement.
 
Please note...... the Tea Party IS the Republican Party. People say the Tea Party won but I feel they are one in the same. Either way, YES of course they won.

Please note that there is no Tea Party. It does not exist. There is no political party called the Tea Party.There is a tea party and there is a real difference between the two things.
There is a Republican Party.
There is a Democratic Party.
There is a Libertarian Party.
There is a Socialist Party.
There is no Tea Party.
 
Did the Republicans win the midterms... "decisively"?

Yes.
No.

.



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Did the Republicans win the midterms... "decisively"?

Oh, look! It's Zimmer, the one-trick pony, digging up a discussion that trickled off 5 days ago in an effort to win by right of spam.

Well, Zimmer, despite the fact that you utterly failed to actually address what I said 5 days ago and instead opted simply to repeat yourself over and over and over and over, I'll give you one more chance to redeem yourself. Please, if you can, address my argument definitively:


The two parties now posses almost perfectly split control of the first two estates. The Democrats, of course, still hold the Presidency (since Obama's not up for re-election yet) and a majority in the Senate -- one too small to steamroller a fillibuster. The Republicans hold a majority in the House, and enough Senators to put up a good fight.

The President is free to sign or Veto as he pleases, since the Republicans couldn't possibly put together a 2/3 majority to override on any but the most urgent of legislative issues. The Republicans are free to pass whatever they like in the House. The battleground for the next two years will be the Senate.

Literally nothing will be accomplished from this point forward except where the two major parties cooperate.

That certainly is a victory for the party that was in the minority in both houses, but all that has been decided is that neither party has enough control to just do whatever the hell they want. That sounds like the opposite of decisive to me.

It's even less decisive when you take into account the fact that the party in the White House typically loses a certain amount of influence (almost by default) in the mid-term elections.

It's even less decisive than that when you take into account all of the bragging done about how the Republicans were going to seize both houses of Congress from the evil Democrats and set all the wrongs right.

They took a perfect storm and used it to coast in like a lazy boy on a bike, rather than marching in like gangbusters.

If that's decisive in your book, then be sure to say "hi" to Rush for me at the next circle-jerk. :lol:

Just in case anybody was left wondering what I voted on the poll, I said "no."
 
Please note that there is no Tea Party. It does not exist. There is no political party called the Tea Party.There is a tea party and there is a real difference between the two things.
There is a Republican Party.
There is a Democratic Party.
There is a Libertarian Party.
There is a Socialist Party.
There is no Tea Party.

Is that a fact?
Or, define party.
 
Yes it is a fact.

Can you name me one state where there was an organized political party with its own candidates running under the label of the Tea Party on the ballot?
 
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Well, there is no doubt about it the Republican crushed the democrat even though they come short when it comes down winning the senate.
 
I don't think the Republicans won so much as the Democrats lost. Most people didn't vote Republican because they loved what the Republicans were promising, but because they hated what the Democrats were doing. They were trying to vote out a political party they didn't like, they were not trying to vote in a party that they did.

That's how most elections are these days. People vote for the lesser of two evils, not because they support them, but because they hate them less than the other guys.
 
Well, that's something I used to think about. I do know people voted Republican not because they think they have a solution for what is going right now. This mess was caused by Republican in the first place, but the problem was the democrat came and made the problem even much worse.
 
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I don't think the Republicans won so much as the Democrats lost. Most people didn't vote Republican because they loved what the Republicans were promising, but because they hated what the Democrats were doing. They were trying to vote out a political party they didn't like, they were not trying to vote in a party that they did.

That's how most elections are these days. People vote for the lesser of two evils, not because they support them, but because they hate them less than the other guys.
Probably quite accurate, this...

Now, in a couple years or so, we'll kick the repubs out - assuming they don't make some major policy changes...HAH!
 
Well, there is no doubt about it the Republican crushed the democrat even though they come short when it comes down winning the senate.

Ahhh no. For a decisive win, the GOP would have had to take back Congress, both houses, not just the HR. They can basically do the same thing they could do before the election: they can block cloture, and make sure the federal government does nothing. The only difference now is they control half of Congress and are going to get blamed for whatever government does/doesn't do.
 
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