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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    against of course that is beyond dumb and goes against just about everything
    are there ideas Id entertain on way a person shouldnt get to vote, im sure there are but this insanity isnt it
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you think 10 people who pay no income tax should be able to vote away all of the wealth of one person who makes more than 100K
    Absolutely.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    These are not the same. One is outlawed, the other is not. The words "or other tax" directly relate to paying a tax for voting. It isn't the same at all. To think "or any other tax" is separated out form the phrases that come before it is wrong and an unsupported interpretation of the Amendment.
    And what exactly is the connection between the income tax and voting in this proposal? It is clear and unmistakable and beyond dispute: if you do not pay enough income tax then you lose the right to vote. That is 100% prohibited by the 24th Amendment since it not only mentions a poll tax but then goes one step farther and speficially uses the phrase "OTHER TAX".

    You are stripping someone of the vote and barring them from voting because of the tax issue and the non payment of it. There is absolutely no difference in any way between a traditional poll tax since the end product is 100% identical, the same and reaches the same result.

    Of course Hal, you will simply come back and say "no it does not" asking us if we believe our own eyes and what we read in the COnstitution or do we believe your simplistic responses attempting to pass as fact.

    But by all means if you believe what you write, go ahead and back something like this and see what would happen.

    While you are doing so you can answer the following questions about this scheme

    Just what it is the exact definition of a "net taxpayer"?
    How is it measured?
    When is it measured?
    For what period of time are we measuring?
    Which taxes are we considering and why?
    Which taxes are we not considering and why not?
    Are all levels of government considered?
    Can you bounce back and forth between classifications of being a "net taxpayer" and not being one?
    How often can you bounce back and forth?
    Who will make this determination?
    Is there an appeals process?
    Is it regularly reviewed?
    Is it a violation of the equal protections clause of the 14th Amendment?
    Is it a violation of the 24th Amendment?
    How many people would be stripped of the right to vote at any given time?
    Could they still vote in purely local elections?
    How would you manage such a system?

    Such a system would make a Mandarin bureaucrat proud.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    I think this is an excellent thread to split between normal people and idiotic people. Please post some more!
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And what exactly is the connection between the income tax and voting in this proposal? It is clear and unmistakable and beyond dispute: if you do not pay enough income tax then you lose the right to vote. That is 100% prohibited by the 24th Amendment since it not only mentions a poll tax but then goes one step farther and speficially uses the phrase "OTHER TAX".
    Go back and read the compromise, everyone votes. None lose their right, the weight to the vote is different but everyone can vote.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    Go back and read the compromise, everyone votes. None lose their right, the weight to the vote is different but everyone can vote.
    Are you completely oblivious to the irony of this "compromise"..... ie: 3/5ths? I suspect that it has gone right over your head and you have been taken in without even realize you were being toyed with.

    On election day, officials at each polling place separate out the net taxpayers. Those individuals would be permitted to use the voting machines as usual. Everybody else would be lined up, then counted off in groups of 5 people. Each group would be handed a paper ballot and given time to discuss amongst themselves how they would like to cast their ballot. When they reach some kind of agreement, each group would then fill out their ballots, casting a total of 3 votes in each race, after which they all sign the ballot and turn it in to be counted.
    Do you think the formula was a coincidence?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_fifths_compromise

    Did you really not get that?
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are you completely oblivious to the irony of this "compromise"..... ie: 3/5ths? I suspect that it has gone right over your head and you have been taken in without even realize you were being toyed with.
    It didn't go over my head. I understand that the number has some history. But I don't base this compromise on slavey. There is no one here saying that this would only apply to Blacks. You are making this illogical leap.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    It didn't go over my head. I understand that the number has some history. But I don't base this compromise on slavey. There is no one here saying that this would only apply to Blacks. You are making this illogical leap.
    An I think you simply did not get it. Really Hal, do you think the number 3/5s compromise here is merely a weird coincidence? The whole thing is intended to show how absurd the basic idea really is by comparing to a historical atrocity.

    I guess when some consider the original to be fine and dandy a similarly named sequel would be just as fine.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    An I think you simply did not get it. Really Hal, do you think the number 3/5s compromise here is merely a weird coincidence? The whole thing is intended to show how absurd the basic idea really is by comparing to a historical atrocity.

    I guess when some consider the original to be fine and dandy a similarly named sequel would be just as fine.
    Just like last time, you are showing your own latent racism here. 3/5 has historical context but it is just a number.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    Just like last time, you are showing your own latent racism here. 3/5 has historical context but it is just a number.
    This is actually becoming quite funny. Look, I get it that you don't like being the butt of the joke. Nobody does. But everytime you deny the painfully obvious it just keeps you in the spotlight all the longer.

    btw- do you know of any other historical Three-Fifths Compromises?

    Get real Hal - you were taken in and bamboozled. Its okay and happens to all of us at one time or the other.
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