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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    So...... again if you have money, your vote counts according to Turtle. That is what the founding Fathers DIDNT want!!!!!! Where is Turtle so I can smack em????
    And NO! This whole idea discussed in this poll is assinine.
    Probably posting in other threads how we should make those that are poor and on welfare do slave labor lol
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    In America your freedoms aren't based on your income. It would be unconstitutional to force citizens who receive more than they put in to not have their vote equal to the millionaires. It would be an injustice and inequality of epic proportions. Every legal adult citizen should have the right to vote regardless of beliefs, income, or if they receive money from the government. It's un-American, unethical, and unjust to deny them their vote or lessen their vote.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what the OP fails to note is that I want a tax system where those who do not pay taxes cannot vote up the taxes of those who do

    that is the main point-such as a NST, a consumption tax or a flat tax. I oppose progressive income taxes so the OP is being less than honest which figures
    I wasn't the least bit dishonest. Everything I said about your position was 100% correct. If I didn't go into the details, it's because the details weren't relevant to the poll question, because the details weren't what provided the inspiration for the poll.

    I also didn't take a shot at you personally.

    Who's being dishonest? Oh, yeah...
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But citizens DO NOT vote for income tax hikes or decreases.
    You're right. They vote for people who promise to tax the wealthy and leave every one else alone. They vote for people who promise all kinds of goodies.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'm poor, but I am by no means a dem. I think both dems and rep should be booted out and more independents should be brought in. And by indepenent I'm talking about people that are not affiliated with ANY party and will tell them both like it is. So sorry but poor people do not always vote dem.
    Watch out, if you're poor and don't vote Dem you might be called an idiot. They might say it's voting against you're own best interest and that's stupid.
    The thing is, liberals don't know what someone's best interest is. They just think they do.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    In America your freedoms aren't based on your income. It would be unconstitutional to force citizens who receive more than they put in to not have their vote equal to the millionaires. It would be an injustice and inequality of epic proportions. Every legal adult citizen should have the right to vote regardless of beliefs, income, or if they receive money from the government. It's un-American, unethical, and unjust to deny them their vote or lessen their vote.
    you do know that the when the nation was founded only male landed property owners could vote.

    so how is it unamerican to limit voting to those who are net tax payers.

    I want to see a rational argument



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Probably posting in other threads how we should make those that are poor and on welfare do slave labor lol
    making someone work to pay for the existence of someone unwilling to do that for himself is not slave labor to you but making someone who is on the dole contribute to society in lieu of paying taxes is slave labor?

    now that is some strange hypocrisy IMHO



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you do know that the when the nation was founded only male landed property owners could vote.
    Absolutely. It was also American to keep slaves, deny the women the right to vote, employ children outside of family businesses, and expect laborers to endure dangerous conditions with little or no protection simply for the sake of having a job.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so how is it unamerican to limit voting to those who are net tax payers.

    I want to see a rational argument
    Simple.

    As a nation, we've evolved.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Watch out, if you're poor and don't vote Dem you might be called an idiot. They might say it's voting against you're own best interest and that's stupid.
    The thing is, liberals don't know what someone's best interest is. They just think they do.
    And if you think that conservatives don't erroneously think that they know what is in someone's best interest, you are fooling yourself.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you do know that the when the nation was founded only male landed property owners could vote.

    so how is it unamerican to limit voting to those who are net tax payers.

    I want to see a rational argument
    I don't think you want to go this route. There are far too many contradictions if you start comparing voting rights from 1789 to those of today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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