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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your plan is one of the most obvious racist schemes that anyone has come up with to disenfranchise massive numbers of African American and Hispanic voters. It would proportionately impact those person in far greater percentages that it would White voters. That is the personification of a racist policy. You and will are simply engaging in the right wing tactic to attack the use of the term to take it off the table so that their motives can be hidden and not exposed.
    This is ridiculous. You do realize that white people use all entitlements more than any other group both in percentages and in pure hard counts, don't you?

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    So now the radical right wing wants to eliminate any reference to FASCISM as well? It seems we have struck a nerve with some here.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    This is ridiculous. You do realize that white people use all entitlements more than any other group both in percentages and in pure hard counts, don't you?
    Please provide the factual evidence to support that claim.

    And then take the factual evidence that I have provided from the census on income distribution and take the information that others have provided on income groups voting for political parties and tell all of us why this scheme to disenfranchise scores of millions of voters would not adversely impact African Americans and Hispanics more than whites and impact Democrats more than Republicans.

    This is where the rubber meets the road.

    You seem to love to present what you believe are facts and then offer nothing in support except your own opinion to support them.

    You do understand the idea of proportionality don't you?

    As for fascism and the efforts of the far right to take any mention of it off the table less it embarrass some of their own positions, this is worth reading

    http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So now the radical right wing wants to eliminate any reference to FASCISM as well? It seems we have struck a nerve with some here.
    you seem to be as clueless about fascism as you are of racism. its you who wants a bigger government with more control over our freedoms than any of those you call "radical right wing"



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Personally, I'm sick of all of these uppity voters without any land.

    Hell yes to the compromise.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you seem to be as clueless about fascism as you are of racism. its you who wants a bigger government with more control over our freedoms than any of those you call "radical right wing"
    Would it be too much for you to explain exactly and specifically what "freedoms" of yours I want to control by getting a bigger government?

    You extremists on the right really hate when anyone brings up racism and fascism. It hits a nerve and the nerve is in you and you recognize the reality of it.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Would it be too much for you to explain exactly and specifically what "freedoms" of yours I want to control by getting a bigger government?

    You extremists on the right really hate when anyone brings up racism and fascism. It hits a nerve and the nerve is in you and you recognize the reality of it.
    you demand an explanation when you constantly mischaracterize anyone who opposes tax hikes on the wealthy and the progressive income tax as "radical right wingers" when that was the law of the land for more than half this country's history.


    progressive income taxes treat people unequally and make those who already pay the most pay even more. taxing someone is taking wealth and labor from someone. and your rants about racism is a pathetic curtin emotobabbling lefties use to cloak their lack of rational arguments. Being opposed to illegals children born here while their parents are in violation of our laws getting citizenship has nothing to do with racism.



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

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    progressive income taxes treat people unequally and make those who already pay the most pay even more.
    Of course they do. So what? That is the point is it not?

    you demand an explanation when you constantly mischaracterize anyone who opposes tax hikes on the wealthy and the progressive income tax as "radical right wingers" when that was the law of the land for more than half this country's history.
    It has been repeatedly pointed out to you - with supporting evidence from an authoritative source - that progressive taxation goes back at least to the start of the Civil War nearly a century and a half ago. But you ignore that like you love to ignore any information which shows you are in error of the facts.

    and your rants about racism is a pathetic curtin emotobabbling lefties use to cloak their lack of rational arguments.
    Ah if it were only so the world would be much simpler. But alas it is not so.

    Your scheme would have far greater negative impact on African Americans than it would on Whites. You don't like the implications of that upon your character but you have never denied the reality of it.

    Your scheme would have far greater negative impact on Hispanics and Latinos than it would on Whites. You don't like the implications of that upon your character but you have never denied the reality of it.

    Your scheme would have far greater negative impact on Democrats than it would on Republicans. You don't like the implications of that upon your character but you have never denied the reality of it.

    Deal with those realities and then let the other readers here decide what you are up to.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Maybe I tend to ignore things that I do not like.
    Any politician that says "vote for me and I promise you money and riches"....is not to be trusted..
    Yet, very few actually do this.....directly...
    no compromise, there should be no connection with this and voting rights.....even if greedy idiots vote.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
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    Of course they do. So what? That is the point is it not?



    It has been repeatedly pointed out to you - with supporting evidence from an authoritative source - that progressive taxation goes back at least to the start of the Civil War nearly a century and a half ago. But you ignore that like you love to ignore any information which shows you are in error of the facts.



    Ah if it were only so the world would be much simpler. But alas it is not so.

    Your scheme would have far greater negative impact on African Americans than it would on Whites. You don't like the implications of that upon your character but you have never denied the reality of it.

    Your scheme would have far greater negative impact on Hispanics and Latinos than it would on Whites. You don't like the implications of that upon your character but you have never denied the reality of it.

    Your scheme would have far greater negative impact on Democrats than it would on Republicans. You don't like the implications of that upon your character but you have never denied the reality of it.

    Deal with those realities and then let the other readers here decide what you are up to.
    the concept of a progressive income tax was anathema to the founders. your appeal to history means nothing to me since I am aware of the facts. And yes, it would impact the dems more. DUH!



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