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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Everyone should have one vote.
    Everyone should have a horse in the race. By that I mean, that when taxes go up, everyone's taxes go up. Someone should not be able to vote for higher taxes for someone else but not themselves.
    Unfortunately, that happens far too often. California is falling apart, in large part to the fact that many poor California voters keep passing massive bond issues that they want free stuff, but don't actually pay any taxes so they are never responsible for paying it back. This kind of entitlement attitude is absurd, but it's rampant.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Unfortunately, that happens far too often. California is falling apart, in large part to the fact that many poor California voters keep passing massive bond issues that they want free stuff, but don't actually pay any taxes so they are never responsible for paying it back. This kind of entitlement attitude is absurd, but it's rampant.
    Yup. But that doesn't give cause to disenfranchise referendums. What that gives cause to is for a requirement for referendums include the form of tax revenue to pay for them.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Everyone should have one vote.
    Everyone should have a horse in the race. By that I mean, that when taxes go up, everyone's taxes go up. Someone should not be able to vote for higher taxes for someone else but not themselves.
    If everyone should have one vote, there is nothing more to add. Your last sentence highly contradicts both your first statement AND the way you voted in this poll. The fact that you don't like how someone else exercises their right to vote is really of no consequence. If you agree, as you say, that everyone should have one vote, then by default you accept the probability that some people's choices will piss you off every so often.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Please read this entire post before voting in the poll. If you vote before reading the entire post, know that you are an idiot.

    Turtledude thinks that you shouldn't be allowed to vote if you are not a net taxpayer (in other words, someone who pays more in taxes than they get back when they file their returns). He doesn't think it's fair that those who are not net taxpayers are permitted to vote for the politician who promises them the most goodies, since they're not feeling the bite of paying the taxes that fund those goodies.

    I completely disagree with his position, but this got me to thinking. What if someone were to propose the following compromise:





    And now, the question I put to all of you!

    If you were given the choice between voting FOR this compromise, or voting AGAINST this compromise, which would you choose?

    This is a simple yes/no, with the obligatory nonsense option. You can explain your vote after you cast it, but this thread is not for the discussion of any option other than the compromise as described above.
    As I've often said, income tax is only one tax. There is still property tax, sales tax, value-added tax on goods, fuel tax, etc. IMO relatively few people are actually paying NO tax.

    If you looked strictly at my Fed income tax returns, I'd probably be getting more back than I pay in. This doesn't mean I am not a net-tax payer. If you add in what I pay in SS/Medicare/Medicaid it is about even. I own land; I buy goods; I buy fuel; I get taxed on all these things and more. When all is said and done, I am a net tax-payer, but it doesn't sound like this would be recognized if we're only looking at Fed Income tax returns only.

    I do not wish to be ruled by a gov't in which I had no say, or in which I had only 1/5 as much say as someone else, so I would oppose this compromise.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    not very awake, I voted yes but meant no.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    No. The compromise is absurd and anti-American. As is turtle's position.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Anyone that is not anti-america would naturally vote "No".
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    So...... again if you have money, your vote counts according to Turtle. That is what the founding Fathers DIDNT want!!!!!! Where is Turtle so I can smack em????
    And NO! This whole idea discussed in this poll is assinine.
    what the OP fails to note is that I want a tax system where those who do not pay taxes cannot vote up the taxes of those who do

    that is the main point-such as a NST, a consumption tax or a flat tax. I oppose progressive income taxes so the OP is being less than honest which figures



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. The compromise is absurd and anti-American. As is turtle's position.
    You are being dishonest too because you have seen most of what I have written on this.



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Everyone should have one vote.
    Everyone should have a horse in the race. By that I mean, that when taxes go up, everyone's taxes go up. Someone should not be able to vote for higher taxes for someone else but not themselves.
    exactly my point-since many liberals oppose this THEN I suggested that only net tax payers be able to vote. I wonder why the left has such a hard time with flat taxes or a NST or consumption tax. Because their masters cannot buy the votes of people likey Haymarket etc by promising the dem masses more and more goodies paid for by tax hikes on "The rich"



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