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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    fine limit the issue to tax matters
    Nearly all government actions involve revenues or spending to some degree. Do they get to vote on issues or tariffs, or how about spending, perhaps they vote to use all government revenues ( ie your tax dollars) on Pamela Anderson blow up dolls for all adult males. I dont think the fact they were able to vote on how the government spent your money would make you feel satisified. Or perhaps they voted to eliminate the FBI and the standing US military and use the money saved to build pyramids. I am sure you would be upset that the untaxed were determining how your tax money was being spent, despite those people not being able to vote on increasing your taxes

    secondly the above would also mean the US was a direct democracy, rather then a representational one (republic it may be)

    How would the various congressmen be allowed to vote. Would congressional districts have to be rated on the amount of tax each pays, preventing those that recieve a net amount of money from the federal government from voting on taxation issues, while only those districts that pay more in taxation then what they receive being able to vote on taxation issues. What about those individuals that live in one district who should have his/her vote count or not count but because of the district they are in it doesnt
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah you do favor a flat tax-you have some rational thoughts
    More than some.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    More than some.
    no doubt-Justabubba claimed on another thread that his kid has more knowledge about the law than I do



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm not defining your argument. Your argument is a logical fallacy.

    Oh, and I already responded. If the results of taxation impact them, they must folllow the rules that have been set. It is appropriate for them to have a say in the rules that affect them. Or, do you believe that a citizen should NOT have a say in the rules and laws that affect them?
    This is not a response. This relies on the assumption that citizens no matter what should get the vote. But you don't beleive this. You already limit citizens from voting such as those under 18 and those who have gone to prison. This is just one extra obligation on limits we already set. Also, I would say those who are not contributing to the overal government do not have a say in the rules and laws that affect them.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    this is a frigging chat board dude

    you take this place WAY too seriously
    Debate politics should be a serious affair.
    And a "chat room" is something for the basement.

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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no doubt-Justabubba claimed on another thread that his kid has more knowledge about the law than I do
    Pay no attention. Arguments like that occur when your opponent has nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Debate politics should be a serious affair.
    And a "chat room" is something for the basement.

    get a life seems to be the appropriate response.

    serious affair is say dealing with a home invasion robber or a drunk driver coming at you the wrong way on a highway or dealing with pancreatic cancer



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Thanks all, this was a lively discussion, a happy thanksgiving (or what is left of it) to all



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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I actually prefer a system where all can vote and all have a duty to pay taxes. that's my preference

    its an easy choice-want to vote-pay some income taxes. you want to take away wealth and labor in order to give it to others who did nothing to earn it
    There are plenty of folks that pay into the tax system for YEARS and then get laid off. Guess you would rather them be on streets without food than getting welfare too?

    I want to do the right thing to help people and you just wanna do what is best for the rich.
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    Re: Would you vote for the compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    This is not a response. This relies on the assumption that citizens no matter what should get the vote. But you don't beleive this. You already limit citizens from voting such as those under 18 and those who have gone to prison. This is just one extra obligation on limits we already set.
    I don't limit people from voting. As far as those in prison... I have no problem with them voting. Under 18? I know something about brain development in humans. Prior to this approximate age, people tend to make decisions more often on impulse and emotionality rather than rationality and information. I'd like to see some studies done, not on this age group's possible voting habits, but of their understanding of the political process and their ability to respond to that understanding.

    Also, I would say those who are not contributing to the overal government do not have a say in the rules and laws that affect them.
    So, a government, arbitrarily defining what a contributing citizen is and taking away their rights if they do not meet the criteria that the government has set. Hmmm... sounds pretty fascist to me. I can think of a few societies/governments that put things like this in place. Many of them flourished in the '30's and early '40's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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