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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Ok, I feel rather sick now. I was trying to find what foundation Ron Christie ( black conservative) was working with to help poor black kids succeed in life. I can't believe all the viciousness I came across EVERYWHERE when I searched his name. I mean really ugly things about this nice guy who has been successful. There were a couple posts of people standing up and fighting back for him, but not many. One was a white Christian Conservative. I took it that most the hate was coming from black democrats.
    If this is the case, I feel even more for black conservatives than I did before. Man, I don't know how they stand it.
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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    You would be right IF it were only the Black communities who were experiencing poverty. In case you haven't noticed, white communities in the South are disproportionately impoverished as well. I teach at a public school in the South where 20% of the student body is Black and yet 70% of the students qualify for free or reduced lunches.
    No. I would be right because black and poverty in America have been synonymous for well over 400 years. Your 'degree' in history should have covered that at some point. Over the course of American history, it has been a given that the more blacks there are, the higher the poverty rate for the community as a whole. Sure, there have been some rich blacks but rich 'black communities'? They're as common as 'rich albino communities'. For whites the story is entirely different as being white in America did not mean you had been subjected to any systematic enforcement of poverty. When I say systematic enforcement of poverty I mean, the government and (X) populace colluding to reduce not only your earning power but your ability to create wealth. You were simply the product of your current environment. A white person in the U.S. could be born rich and die poor due to fluctuations in the economy. A black person in America was almost always sentenced to being born poor and dying poor.
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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    He's still a Black man living in America. Ten years ago, how much of the public knew of Obama's African ancestry? Either he's Black or not....which is it? In the eyes of one who wishes to discriminate or repress do you think it matters where his lineage is from?
    ... Can you please reduce that to one coherent sentence?
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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I talk about socioeconomic factors, the denial of wealth accumulation for over 400 years and you refute that by saying that because Obama, an 'African-American', is president, none of these things are facts? Are you even remotely serious?

    So now we get to the gist of it. It's not really about "repression" after all then is it? It's about entitlement - feeling entitled to get what someone else has accumulated. I figured as much. You see, if "denial of wealth accumulation" is the "repression" of which you truly speak, then there are a whole slew of other groups (including post Civil War Southern Whites) who are being left out of the big picture as well.
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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Here we have it folks: some black people are sick of the black people for blaming others for their failures.

    In the realworld? Those same black folks that you are sick of for not being able to get over it and not being tow for the White Mans Way? <--- Perfect example of the bad attitude that is infecting the black community. As if being successful is "the white mans way"

    If you are sick about the white man is holding me down mantra? Do something rather than bashing some white chick on the net that understands your History even better than you.

    I am sick of that kinda thinking AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM
    Attacking?

    You think you know more about being black than a black man? Interesting.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Ok, I feel rather sick now. I was trying to find what foundation Ron Christie ( black conservative) was working with to help poor black kids succeed in life. I can't believe all the viciousness I came across EVERYWHERE when I searched his name. I mean really ugly things about this nice guy who has been successful. There were a couple posts of people standing up and fighting back for him, but not many. One was a white Christian Conservative. I took it that most the hate was coming from black democrats.
    If this is the case, I feel even more for black conservatives than I did before. Man, I don't know how they stand it.
    Hell I could have told you that being a black conservative.

    We just uncle Tom's dancing fo da white man.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    *lost quote*

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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    For whites the story is entirely different as being white in America did not mean you had been subjected to any systematic enforcement of poverty. When I say systematic enforcement of poverty I mean, the government and (X) populace colluding to reduce not only your earning power but your ability to create wealth. You were simply the product of your current environment.
    Did you get your education from the Jeremiah Wright School of Tolerance or what? Are you implying that generations of whites have not been born into poverty as well? Really? Have you even visited the Deep South? I'm not ashamed to admit that I was the first male in my family to even get a high school diploma (much less a college degree) in over 100 years! I lived in a two-bedroom house with no air conditioning or hot water with three brothers, Mom, and Dad until I was 15 years old. Can you say the same? Don't talk to me about poverty man....you're barking up the wrong tree.

    BTW where is the "systematic enforcement of poverty" today? I agree that it did exist and for a long, long while. It is a stain on our nation's history - but we must reach some point where we just have to let the whole "slavery is still causing repression" mantra go, don't we?
    Last edited by FluffyNinja; 11-25-10 at 02:50 AM.
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    Re: Do You Understand Repression & After Effects of Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Did you get your education from the Jeremiah Wright School of Tolerance or what?
    I'm sure getting a degree from his school would still provide me better reading skills than the ones you have exhibited throughout this discussion. I'll explain why in the next line.

    Are you implying that generations of whites have not been born into poverty as well?
    Remember when I suggested you had a problem with reading? Up above is a better example of why. No, I am not implying that generations of whites have not been subject to generational poverty. I am claiming that this poverty did not come as a result of government collusion with any specific populace. I am claiming that as proven by the last 400 years of American history, being born white was not related to poverty in the same way being born black was. Whereas the wealth of a white person was not dependent on their skin color ( because the definition of 'white' has changed over and over again giving each generation of white immigrant a new change at economic prosperity), the amassing of wealth of wealth for blacks has been tied to their color from day 1.

    Really? Have you even visited the Deep South?
    Yes. I have. And what?

    I'm not ashamed to admit that I was the first male in my family to even get a high school diploma (much less a college degree) in over 100 years! I lived in a two-bedroom house with no air conditioning or hot water with three brothers, Mom, and Dad until I was 15 years old. Can you say the same? Don't talk to me about poverty man....you're barking up the wrong tree.
    That's great for you. However your family's poverty did not come as a result of systematic racism. Seriously, you supposedly have a degree in this stuff. Why are the words 'systematic poverty' such a big issue for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Hell I could have told you that being a black conservative.

    We just uncle Tom's dancing fo da white man.
    Well why the hell didn't you tell me how bad it was on the internet before I went looking?

    I mean I knew it was problem, just never read garbage such as that. Black conservatives might even be treated worse than the Palins.
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