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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The sign matched the speech President Bush gave:

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    Misunderstood? Not.
    How is that any different from what I said? Operation Iraqi Freedom ended May 1, 2003.

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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    According to this site is a combination of tax payers and private donations.

    Presidential Library FAQ - Emily Yoffe - Slate Magazine
    Who pays for a presidential library?

    Both private citizens and taxpayers. Before any bricks get laid, a private foundation is created to raise the money for the both the building and an endowment to run special programs and exhibits. In order to keep former presidents from erecting another Great Pyramid in their honor, the government requires that the bigger the square footage, the bigger the endowment. Once the building is dedicated, the library is turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration, which runs it, paying for both the staff, such as a director and archivists--who are federal employees--and much of the maintenance.
    We also provide them with an office & staff for as long as they feel the need, usually not located at their library. Pres. Clinton for example has his office in Harlem, while his library is in Little Rock, Arkansas.

    As a humorous aside, there were both real estate & funding controversies during the construction of Clinton's Monument to himself.

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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The sign matched the speech President Bush gave:

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    Misunderstood? Not.
    Sounds like he was saying that we had removed Hussein as the leader of Iraq and made Iraq more free and that our mission (and by our, I include myself, because I was on that ship and there in that crowd on the flight deck when he made the speech) was done. Which was absolutely true for us. We had been out to sea since Aug. 02, including supporting Operation Enduring Freedom months before OIF, and the only ones that were actually "home" when he made the speech were the airwing. The ship's crew still had another 3 days til we made it home to Washington.

    As for the words of his speech, he felt that we were safer without Hussein in power (I agree, I just disagree on how we tried to operate in Iraq after doing that). The part that is misunderstood is that Bush didn't have hindsight then to tell him that ensuring that Iraq remained free would take many more years and in truth, might never be accomplished if the people can't get over their hate of each other. He never actually said in his speech that OIF was complete anyway. He said that Iraq was free. He also only said that major military operations in the country were complete, which was kind of true, especially for the Navy. The only major part of OIF the Navy actually participated in was Shock and Awe. The rest of the Navy's contribution was/has been in a support role.
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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    That it's such a hugely remembered part of the Iraq war is enough to argue that the banner should be preserved in some way. However I'm somewhat indifferent as to where it's kept, as long as it's looked after properly so that it doesn't get damaged.

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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    It's a pretty significant part of his Presidential history. And I think the explanation should show why he had that banner up, that they had successfully completed their mission to topple Saddam Hussein and combat operations against Saddam's army had been successfully completed. Then he should also include what he says in his book about it and what he told Matt Lauer about how it probably wasn't a good choice to use that to congratulate the troops and that it was perceived wrong.

    Democrats insist Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before we got there, so I don't know why they think it would be so odd that Bush declared mission accomplished after toppling the Saddam government and defeating his armies. How was he supposed to know Al Qaeda would then make that country the focus of their war on the US?
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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    since it was never "his banner" but that of the ship and crew, why should it be in Bush's library? Simply because it appeared behind him in a picture? I am sure there are thousands of signs/banners that should then be enshrined. just plain stupid.

    Is the cum stained blue dress Monica Lewinski wore displayed in Clinton's library? I mean if we are going to bring up totally ridiculous partisan hackery...let's go all the way.
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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yes, I think that would be quite fitting. It's one of the iconic moments of his presidency. Of course, it most likely wont be there since it makes Bush look like an incompetent failure. But it belongs in a museum.



    Why write posts like this?
    People often make a mountain out of a molehill and this is one of those instances. Its good to point that out.

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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    Absolutely, along with a video explaining the truth behind it. Even wiki got it right, according to my last peek.

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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    It should hang in the Smithsonian... a special exhibit called "Worst Modern President"...

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    Re: Should Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' Banner Hang In His Presidential Library?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It should hang in the Smithsonian... a special exhibit called "Worst Modern President"...
    Yeah, it could hang there to celebrate the worst, and 1-termers at that; Obama and Carter.

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