View Poll Results: Do you have a right to drive and/or fly on an airplane?

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  • Yes you have a right to drive and a right to fly on an airplane.

    11 40.74%
  • You have a right to drive but not a right to fly on an airplane.

    1 3.70%
  • You do not have a right to drive but you do have a right to fly on an airplane.

    1 3.70%
  • You have no right to drive or fly on an airplane.

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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    There's no right to movement, there is however a freedom of movement. Rights and freedoms are not exactly the same thing.
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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    There's no right to movement, there is however a freedom of movement. Rights and freedoms are not exactly the same thing.
    Either way, the burden is on the government to justify its intrusion into it.
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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Either way, the burden is on the government to justify its intrusion into it.
    Aye, but it's very easy to justify when the government is appealing to the most sacred of all rights, the right to life.
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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Aye, but it's very easy to justify when the government is appealing to the most sacred of all rights, the right to life.
    Well it's more appeal to emotion and fear tactics....but whatever.
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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Aye, but it's very easy to justify when the government is appealing to the most sacred of all rights, the right to life.
    It's not THAT easy, and the protection of life doesn't necessitate any willy-nilly intrustion. They have to justify both the reason and the means.
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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well it's more appeal to emotion and fear tactics....but whatever.
    The government has no reason to spend more money for the protection of its citizens unless it believes that it worths it, threat-level to cost wise.
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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you think that you have a right to drive and/or fly on an airplane?
    IMO, the people who respond to those opposed to the TSA's new pat down methods, and scanners, may see this as a logical point, but it is quite a strawman. The arguments are being aimed at the TSA, a GOVERNMENT AGENCY who has decided that these intrusive methods are A-OK without testing to make sure they work, and without making sure they are constitutionally sound. The government intrusion is the problem, and that has always, from what I see/in my opinion, been the problem.
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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you think that you have a right to drive and/or fly on an airplane? Why?
    Be sure to read the poll options carefully.
    You have a right to travel.
    The means to that travel is, in many cases, a privilige granted by government.
    Driving is one of those means. So is walking down certain roads.

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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    If you have a license than you have the right to drive.
    That you need a license to drive means that driving is a privilige.

    If you have not been disqualified for some reason, you have the right to fly.
    Airlines are private entities. You purchase the privilige to fly; that privilige is conditional on your following the terms and conditions attached to contract created when purchasing the ticket.

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    Re: Right to drive - right to fly on an airplane.

    You don't have a right to either. The state distributes the right to operate vehicles based on training and testing. This would be your drivers license. Also, with a regular license you don't have the right to operate just any motor vehicle, just class D vehicles. Airlines are private companies, they have the right to refuse service, and you have in inerrant right to fly on a plane. Both are privileges. The state distributes the privilege to drive, and airlines give the privilege of flight to customers in the forms of a purchasable service.
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