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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    imo it does not. her death was a consequence of his actions. again, i don't think he should spend life in prision, but i'm not sure the sentence was appropriate.
    her death was also a consequence of her own actions. if she hadn't allowed herself to get so heavy that emergency responders couldn't lift her into an ambulance she would have gotten treatment hours earlier that would have, by all accounts, saved her life.
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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    I think the punishment is adequate. He caused the accident, but it's not his fault she was so fat it took the paramedics 4 hours to get her to a hospital. Which I find in and of itself rather odd. As far as I'm concerned they share part of the blame for her death.
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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I think the punishment is adequate. He caused the accident, but it's not his fault she was so fat it took the paramedics 4 hours to get her to a hospital. Which I find in and of itself rather odd. As far as I'm concerned they share part of the blame for her death.
    I think that it wasn't that they didn't have an ambulance or helicopter big enough to carry her, she was just too damn heavy for them to lift her to get her into the ambulance. I played football in HS with a guy who was so big that when he blew out a knee, they had to get a truck equipped with a "tommy lift" to get him off the field. most ambulance companies are not equipped with cranes, forklifts or other heavylift equipment.
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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I think that it wasn't that they didn't have an ambulance or helicopter big enough to carry her, she was just too damn heavy for them to lift her to get her into the ambulance. I played football in HS with a guy who was so big that when he blew out a knee, they had to get a truck equipped with a "tommy lift" to get him off the field. most ambulance companies are not equipped with cranes, forklifts or other heavylift equipment.
    Right, but the fire department usually can handle such situations. Why didn't they call them for assistance? I don't know about Scotland, but here it's very common to see a fire truck at the site of an accident. They get there pretty quick too.
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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    from Ambulance Photos - - Ambulances, EMU, Doctors, Organ Transport, all medical vehicles! (who'd a thunk?).



    Those scottish ambulances are pretty damn small... How do they fit all the life-saving/monitering equipment in the back along with a normal sized patient and a couple paramedics, let alone with a 400-pounder?

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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Right, but the fire department usually can handle such situations. Why didn't they call them for assistance? I don't know about Scotland, but here it's very common to see a fire truck at the site of an accident. They get there pretty quick too.
    yeah, not a lot of detail in the story. no idea why it took 4 hours to get her to the hospital. maybe they did call the fire dept. but they don't have cranes, forklifts either.

    maybe her injuries were such that having 4-5 guys manhandle her into an ambulance would have done more harm than good? maybe they had to wait on specialized lifting equipment to arrive. who knows.

    the main point is, the justice system isn't an automated cookie cutter process where every case is treated the same regardless of the circumstances.
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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    her death was also a consequence of her own actions. if she hadn't allowed herself to get so heavy that emergency responders couldn't lift her into an ambulance she would have gotten treatment hours earlier that would have, by all accounts, saved her life.
    by that logic, you're saying a man with a bad heart from smoking could die from being hit by a car as well, because his heart couldn't take it, and it would be his fault. we disagree here.

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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    from Ambulance Photos - - Ambulances, EMU, Doctors, Organ Transport, all medical vehicles! (who'd a thunk?).



    Those scottish ambulances are pretty damn small... How do they fit all the life-saving/monitering equipment in the back along with a normal sized patient and a couple paramedics, let alone with a 400-pounder?

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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    by that logic, you're saying a man with a bad heart from smoking could die from being hit by a car as well, because his heart couldn't take it, and it would be his fault. we disagree here.
    as usual, you don't understand what I said. I never said "it was her fault". her actions, in this particular case, lead up to her death because they prevented her from getting prompt medical attention.

    It seems that your biggest complaint is that this guy wasn't "treated like everyone else". what we are trying to get across to you is that he was. in every case, ALL the circumstances surrounding it are taken into account. this case is no different. the fact that you don't agree with the outcome is irrelevent. He was treated just like anyone else.
    Last edited by OscarB63; 11-19-10 at 01:33 PM.
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    Re: lighter sentence because the lady was fat

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post


    You were saying?
    That's a beauty. Maybe they didn't have the these suckers on standby that day?

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