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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    Some of the stuff I've studied in high school in Physics, Biology, etc. turned out to be inaccurate when I've studied the actual subjects in Uni.
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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Have you ever found that you were taught things in school that turned out not to be true when you received sources to the contrary later in education or life? I'm not talking life lessons about sappy ideas like 'freest' or 'equaliest'.

    For example: I remember seeing videos and being lectured that immigrants came to the US, because the police were fair and non-exploitative.

    I'm reading now that in the August 1900 riot in NY after a police officer was killed by an African American even the police officers joined in in terrorising common black folk, tearing them off of trolleys and beating them in the streets. Same issues of police joining in on mass brutality against Jews.

    The modern justice system we occasionally hate, I find I like more at the moment.

    We're you lied to in school?
    What makes you so sure that if there's a contradiction between what you were taught then and what you're reading now, the previous material must be the inaccurate stuff? Seems a bit of a conclusion to jump to.
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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    No I'm talking semi-indoctrination videos about foreign would be immigrants telling stories of American streets paved with gold, etc.

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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    I know what you're talking about, and even now, using terminology like "semi-indoctrination videos," it's obvious that you've found something you'd rather believe and consider what you saw before to be the "lie." These are the terms you chose.

    But that doesn't follow. Just because you're reading something different now, and it fits better with what you'd rather think, it doesn't make what you saw before a "lie." And that particular time period being what it was, the two things you're referencing might not even be contradictory.
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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    I dont know that Ive ever read history books touting sunshine, lollipops, and butterflies as the general life condition in America and the primary motivating factor for people leaving their home country. People typically came to America because the country they left was generally a sinkhole with little to no opportunities and America, even with its failings and shortfalls, offered them an opportunity to succeed that they couldnt have if they stayed home. Today is no different. We have people risking their life to come to America for the opportunity to work as a laborer. Not because being a laborer is all they can ever strive to be, but because their own home country blows. We have 20-30 million illegal mexicans PROUD to be FROM mexico. Says an awful lot about that ****-stained toilet south of the border. I dont think history or science is necessarily being portrayed as lies...just from evolving perspectives.

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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Have you ever found that you were taught things in school that turned out not to be true when you received sources to the contrary later in education or life? I'm not talking life lessons about sappy ideas like 'freest' or 'equaliest'.

    For example: I remember seeing videos and being lectured that immigrants came to the US, because the police were fair and non-exploitative.

    I'm reading now that in the August 1900 riot in NY after a police officer was killed by an African American even the police officers joined in in terrorising common black folk, tearing them off of trolleys and beating them in the streets. Same issues of police joining in on mass brutality against Jews.

    The modern justice system we occasionally hate, I find I like more at the moment.

    We're you lied to in school?Without question, some things I was taught were true in the 1800s, others, never..The teachers did the best they could with what they knew at the time..
    "Lied to" is too strong a term and not appropriate.
    News flash "America is not perfect"...Hell, we are not even close....
    Its debatable at what age our school children should learn this.
    The truth , the whole truth, and nothing but the truth....sounds great, and I believe in it, to an extent.
    Some "Pablum" must be used as well as the truth, we are dealing with teens here, not adults.
    What we must do is communicate, be respectful, but work to improve, and we have..
    Perfection will not be achieved, as long as man is running the show....

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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont know that Ive ever read history books touting sunshine, lollipops, and butterflies as the general life condition in America and the primary motivating factor for people leaving their home country. People typically came to America because the country they left was generally a sinkhole with little to no opportunities and America, even with its failings and shortfalls, offered them an opportunity to succeed that they couldnt have if they stayed home. Today is no different. We have people risking their life to come to America for the opportunity to work as a laborer. Not because being a laborer is all they can ever strive to be, but because their own home country blows. We have 20-30 million illegal mexicans PROUD to be FROM mexico. Says an awful lot about that ****-stained toilet south of the border. I dont think history or science is necessarily being portrayed as lies...just from evolving perspectives.
    The only thing really like that is children's books...or just pamphlets advertising North Dakota and its "wonderful climate" to Germans from Russia
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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    I was lied to in school.


    Welcome to the world, everybody was lied to in school.


    If you're in college, guess what? You're still being lied to.

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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The only thing really like that is children's books...or just pamphlets advertising North Dakota and its "wonderful climate" to Germans from Russia
    Well...Greenland was certainly a carefully crafted ploy as well...but...yeah...

    And if we are being TOTALLY honest...its not like America of the 1900's (or America in general) is the only country that has ever experienced racial strife and bigotry.

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    Re: I was lied to in school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Welcome to the world, everybody was lied to in school.


    If you're in college, guess what? You're still being lied to.
    In most ways, as such, you're being lied to worse, because individual professors have much, much more control over the curricula and materials. The worst -- WORST -- is when the prof assigns his own book. That's a pretty good sign you should be on the lookout for a dumptruck load.
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