View Poll Results: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

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  • invasive pat downs

    12 10.62%
  • Non invasive pat downs.

    31 27.43%
  • Subjected to radiation so you and or your children can be virtually stripped searched.

    17 15.04%
  • Real strip searches

    11 9.73%
  • Cavity search.

    53 46.90%
  • walking through a metal detector.

    52 46.02%
  • other

    29 25.66%
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by topshelf View Post
    We sure are - but it's not by blue-haired old ladies heading to Vegas or families of four heading to Disney that are out to get us. We need to Israelify our screening process and target those who are targeting us.
    One of the major things that Israelies use in their airport security is profiling based on a number of factors. One of them being race. How long do you think that such a system would be allowed to stand in the US with the way that people view profiling race?

    Also you think that invasive pat downs are bad right? Well, guess what....If you're not isreali then you have a very high chance of being taken aside and questioned extensively AND you get a physical check. How many in this thread have been complaining about physical checks? You'd have to go through a lot more of em if we adopted the Israeli method. A lot more.

    Here's a link for you all explaining Israeli Airport security a bit.

    Israel’s Airport Security, Object Of Envy, Is Hard To Emulate Here
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    One of the major things that Israelies use in their airport security is profiling based on a number of factors. One of them being race. How long do you think that such a system would be allowed to stand in the US with the way that people view profiling race?
    Our method is focused on checking your belongings for dangerous material - their style is checking your head for same. Articles I have read stress that the Israeli model asks very pointed questions, the questions don't really matter - how you answer them does. You go through about 4 levels of screening - and each of those security check points are manned by active military who are fully uniformed and armed. It's intended to be very intimidating. Each checkpoint has more questions - and they look right into your eyes and look for any sort of hesitancy.

    I'm certain that their methodology does go over better there because their populace is more accustomed to the stresses of living in a more dangerous part of the world - but the same techniques should apply here. Baggy clothes should and is a factor. Age, Sex, Ethnicity - all of those factors should be taken into account.

    As far as the ethnicity and religion issue - obviously it's a sensitive issue here, but if we ignore it - they are going to get one past us. It wasn't the TSA that stopped the underwear bomber and the shoe bomber - it was regular passengers like you and me who noticed a young, ethnic man behaving erratically. Those plots were stopped because someone had the temerity to look twice at the Arab guy.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Bomb-sniffing dogs and profiling.


    That's pretty much it.
    In other words: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. *

    (*This Constitutional guarantee does not apply if you are a person of color, specifically a person who happens to look of middle eastern decent)
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    I've been watching the news for the last two days and seething with an anger I really don't know what to do with. When I purchase an airplane ticket I don't give up my civil liberties...they are still my civil liberties and if a man or woman attempts to do something inappropriate, we all have the right to defend ourselves. Sexual battery is still a crime.

    I have two girls and a wife and cannot imagine them flying right now. The men that put thier hands of them...I would want rip thier arms off and beat them to death with their own bloody stumps.

    And the most damnable thing about all of this is we all know--we freakin' know-- who the problem is...Muslims. But let the TSA cop-a-feel off of grandma and toddlers since they are just as likely to blow-up a plane as the guy named Muhammad who laces his shoes with fuses and packed his ass with enough C-4 to blow-up Detroit.

    After all, we have to be sensitive to those who want to kill us of the rest of the world will think we're insensitive which seems to be the greatest crime of all is this world of multi-cultural crap.

    Beyond a shadow of a doubt, the terrorist are winning this war and have the further satisfaction of knowing the While House is occupied by a Muslim sympathizer.

    It just pisses me off!!!
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    The reality is this - if someone is really dedicated to killing a lot of people, none of this **** is going to stop them. They could shove explosives up their ass before going through the hand search, or just skip the airport altogether and wreak some havoc in malls or other tightly packed public places.

    I very much doubt that the supposed increase in overall safety from this program outweighs the economic and social costs. If it did, you'd see it in place in Congress. Last I checked, not only does the Capitol only use a metal detector, but Congressmen don't even have to go through the hassle.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Baron, say they did start racial profiling, how do you think the Muslim man with the wife and daughter feel about having security guards grope them? Do they really deserve that, to feel demeaned because of their religion? Or what if you have Coptic Christians, Jews, Sikhs, and members of other Middle East religions, all start feeling that they are being undeservedly targeted?
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Then find another method of traveling

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Undeservedly targeted like me?

    Let's not forget that it was Muslims that caused this whole problem...period. I still have not seen any denounce what happened on 9/11. I've not seen any memorials built in honor of the victims of 9/11 in the Middle East.

    But I tell ya what, I'll agree to forgo any checks on airplanes for everyone...just let the Muslims fly on thier own seperate jets.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Undeservedly targeted like me?
    So you don't care about anyone else as long as it doesn't affect you?
    Let's not forget that it was Muslims that caused this whole problem...period. I still have not seen any denounce what happened on 9/11. I've not seen any memorials built in honor of the victims of 9/11 in the Middle East.
    Muslims Condemn Terrorist Attacks
    September 11 Terrorist Attack - Muslim Scholars Condemn 9/11 Terrorist Attack
    Prominent American Muslims denounce terror committed in the name of Islam
    Statements Against Terror

    And why should another country build a memorial to what happened in America?
    But I tell ya what, I'll agree to forgo any checks on airplanes for everyone...just let the Muslims fly on thier own seperate jets.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    “So you don't care about anyone else as long as it doesn't affect you?” - spud_meister

    I guess you decided to over-look that part about my family, babies and grandmothers, huh?

    “And why should another country build a memorial to what happened in America?” - spud_meister

    As has been well discussed in many circles, the monuments would allow the populations of those Muslim nations know that their governments do not agree with the 9/11 attacks and are mournful that the attacks took place.

    This is not a new topic by any means.

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    Hey, if you've got a better idea from keeping Muslim terrorist from killing more people with planes then let's hear it. I have no problem making Muslims fly on Muslim only planes.

    It makes me wonder how many decent Muslims would give-up ever flying again knowing that were being put at such risk.

    By the way, you might want to remember they are still actively trying to kill us…even the multi-cultural, elitist, Muslim sympathizers who take their sides.
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