View Poll Results: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

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  • invasive pat downs

    12 10.62%
  • Non invasive pat downs.

    31 27.43%
  • Subjected to radiation so you and or your children can be virtually stripped searched.

    17 15.04%
  • Real strip searches

    11 9.73%
  • Cavity search.

    53 46.90%
  • walking through a metal detector.

    52 46.02%
  • other

    29 25.66%
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Thread: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If people can't bother to research the requirements for flying (including what they can, and can't take on the plane), they deserve to be put through the ringer. This **** isn't rocket science, and these protocols exist for a reason.
    That's irrelevant - it's a 100% different experience to drag three children through security then it is to go through yourself as an experienced business traveler.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Do you have the right to sneak a bomb onto a plane? If you're against various precautionary measures, then you apparently feel you do.

    Do I have a right to survive the flight from point A to point B without you blowing it up? I think so.

    So, how do we reconcile those 'rights'? Yours to not be searched for explosives and mine not to be killed when your bomb goes off?
    Grandma Betty isn't trying to blow us up - again I'm for the Israelification of our security check points. I'm also certain using non-union private contractors would lead to an altogether more pleasant experience.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If people can't bother to research the requirements for flying (including what they can, and can't take on the plane), they deserve to be put through the ringer. This **** isn't rocket science, and these protocols exist for a reason.
    Yes. Apparently, they are in place to inconvenience people who want to bring explosives and such onto my plane, blow it up, killing themselves and me.

    Ask me if I give a rats ass if they are inconvenienced.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by topshelf View Post
    Grandma Betty isn't trying to blow us up - again I'm for the Israelification of our security check points. I'm also certain using non-union private contractors would lead to an altogether more pleasant experience.
    YOu believe you can screen based on race, then? Duly noted.

    And, using private contractors would simply result in the same kinds of profit maximizing quality controls as the privatized hospitals where their staff shortages lead to all kinds of dangers to patients.

    There are zero examples of privatizing these kinds of basic functions leading to higher customer service.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by topshelf View Post
    That's irrelevant - it's a 100% different experience to drag three children through security then it is to go through yourself as an experienced business traveler.
    OH, good grief. I've dragged children through security...repeatedly. My kids are good travelers, and have been since they were about 5. They both started flying within a couple of months of being born.

    That security checkpoint I went through at 5:30 a.m.? Went with my son, who was on this business trip with me.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    YOu believe you can screen based on race, then? Duly noted.

    And, using private contractors would simply result in the same kinds of profit maximizing quality controls as the privatized hospitals where their staff shortages lead to all kinds of dangers to patients.

    There are zero examples of privatizing these kinds of basic functions leading to higher customer service.
    Nonsense, you can fire a bad contractor - you can not fire the Federal Government.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Yes. Apparently, they are in place to inconvenience people who want to bring explosives and such onto my plane, blow it up, killing themselves and me.

    Ask me if I give a rats ass if they are inconvenienced.

    That's basically how I feel about it, as well. There is zero guarantee that you aren't going to be inconvenienced, as an American.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    OH, good grief. I've dragged children through security...repeatedly. My kids are good travelers, and have been since they were about 5. They both started flying within a couple of months of being born.

    That security checkpoint I went through at 5:30 a.m.? Went with my son, who was on this business trip with me.
    Anecdotal at best - besides you're talking about the difference between a man-to-man defense (you and your one child) vs a zone defense (mom and three kids).

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by topshelf View Post
    Nonsense, you can fire a bad contractor - you can not fire the Federal Government.
    Bullcrap, federal employees are regularly fired. Give me an example of privatization of a security function that has resulted in better customer service.

    Do you plan to privatize the FBI next? :

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by topshelf View Post
    Anecdotal at best - besides you're talking about the difference between a man-to-man defense (you and your one child) vs a zone defense (mom and three kids).
    I've traveled with a 1 year old and a 4 year old. Give me an f'ing break. Not all women are as frail and incompetent as you seem to prefer. I managed to successfully travel cross country, on a regular basis, with little kids. My parents lived 1000 miles from us and I saw them a few times a year with the kids.

    If a woman, in advance of flying, is too stupid to research the rules about flying, she's too stupid to fly.

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