View Poll Results: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

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  • invasive pat downs

    12 10.62%
  • Non invasive pat downs.

    31 27.43%
  • Subjected to radiation so you and or your children can be virtually stripped searched.

    17 15.04%
  • Real strip searches

    11 9.73%
  • Cavity search.

    53 46.90%
  • walking through a metal detector.

    52 46.02%
  • other

    29 25.66%
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    ah the old "slippery slope" catch all. If you want privacy don't leave your house. OMG, that dude in the car next to me looked at me...he invaded my privacy. the greeter at Walmart asked to see my receipt...he invaded my privacy. That cop asked to see my license and registration....he invaded my privacy.
    why don't you try making some sense, oscar, instead of acting like an little boy. you can do it.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I still see how it is unreasonable to ask you to walk through a damn scanner. It's not like they are asking you to publically stip and do a little dance for them.
    The government may not use such invasive techniques such as strip searching without proof of suspicion. I do not know how to make it any clearer than that. It doesn't matter what other people do or do not see. What matters are the actions of the government against the rights and liberties of the individual.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I still see how it is unreasonable to ask you to walk through a damn scanner. It's not like they are asking you to publically stip and do a little dance for them.
    They don't need to ask you. They have machines that can virtually strip you.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari
    Yes it does. If I'm outside, can some random person photograph me? Sure. But does that mean that the police can randomly strip search me just because I'm outside? No, of course not. I still have reasonable expectation to protection against unreasonable search and seizure. Just because I'm outside does not mean that the government is unchained.
    Well, as you've alluded to, a right is not dependent upon situational factors. If you get naked out in public, I can snap pics of you. If you're naked at home, I'm not allowed.

    Outside those four walls, I'm free to do many things that many people may consider an "invasion of privacy". However, they have no legal leg to stand on to prevent almost all of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady
    since when?
    Since ever.

    People really need to research what it means to have a "right".

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, as you've alluded to, a right is not dependent upon situational factors. If you get naked out in public, I can snap pics of you. If you're naked at home, I'm not allowed.

    Outside those four walls, I'm free to do many things that many people may consider an "invasion of privacy". However, they have no legal leg to stand on to prevent almost all of it.



    Since ever.

    People really need to research what it means to have a "right".
    so why does our gov't have a right to take pictures of us naked when we are fully clothed?

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    They don't need to ask you. They have machines that can virtually strip you.
    have you even bothered to look at any of the images these scanners generate? freakin much ado about nothing.

    get all worked up and bitch and moan about stupid BS like this, while the govt robs us ****ing blind to pay for useless bailouts and stimulus pork packages and no one says ****ing boo about that.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, as you've alluded to, a right is not dependent upon situational factors. If you get naked out in public, I can snap pics of you. If you're naked at home, I'm not allowed.

    Outside those four walls, I'm free to do many things that many people may consider an "invasion of privacy". However, they have no legal leg to stand on to prevent almost all of it.
    Well if I'm outside naked, I probably have other worries than you photographing me. But if I were naked and you did photograph me when I was in public, sure. But I don't make a habit of running around naked. That gets you on lists these days. I wear cloths, and that means I don't want people looking at me naked. Furthermore, what the individual can do and what the government can do are two very different things. The government is still limited in the way it can act against our rights. They need proof to do so. Merely being in public does not unchain the government to use whatever force they deem necessary against my rights and liberties.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    have you even bothered to look at any of the images these scanners generate? freakin much ado about nothing.

    get all worked up and bitch and moan about stupid BS like this, while the govt robs us ****ing blind to pay for useless bailouts and stimulus pork packages and no one says ****ing boo about that.
    you and barb, two peas in a pod. we're discussing scanning machines, not bailouts. and from the tone here, it seems you're the one who is upset. btw, i just looked at what councilman posted, pretty revealing imo.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    while the govt robs us ****ing blind to pay for useless bailouts and stimulus pork packages and no one says ****ing boo about that.
    Which is why it is important to keep in mind the proper restrictions upon government. Whether it be about them stealing our money and giving it to the people who caused our economic collapse or infringements upon our right to protection against unreasonable search and seizure. It is important to keep the government constrained, particularly as it relates to the free practice and exercise or our innate and inalienable rights.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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