View Poll Results: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

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  • invasive pat downs

    12 10.62%
  • Non invasive pat downs.

    31 27.43%
  • Subjected to radiation so you and or your children can be virtually stripped searched.

    17 15.04%
  • Real strip searches

    11 9.73%
  • Cavity search.

    53 46.90%
  • walking through a metal detector.

    52 46.02%
  • other

    29 25.66%
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    but....someone might see/touch my tiny weiner
    I find it hilarious that the people who are bitching about civil libertarians overreacting actually support the government treating citizens like criminals, just so that they can (theoretically) reduce the risk of you being a victim of a plane bombing from a virtually zero probability to a slightly smaller virtually zero probability...and just shift that infintesimal risk from the plane to the security line.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I find it hilarious that the people who are bitching about civil libertarians overreacting actually support the government treating citizens like criminals, just so that they can (theoretically) reduce the risk of you being a victim of a plane bombing from a virtually zero probability to a slightly smaller virtually zero probability...and just shift that infintesimal risk from the plane to the security line.

    Yeah, WE'RE the ones overreacting.

    how is having to walk through a freakin scanner in anyway being "treated like a criminal"? just what "freedom" does this infringe upon?

    why is it that one of the last guys to make such a big deal about it turned out to have a crack pipe in his pocket and that is what set off the metal detector which lead to them wanting to scan him.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    how is having to walk through a freakin scanner in anyway being "treated like a criminal"? just what "freedom" does this infringe upon?

    why is it that one of the last guys to make such a big deal about it turned out to have a crack pipe in his pocket and that is what set off the metal detector which lead to them wanting to scan him.
    what about our right to privacy? this is a slippery slope.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    If you want a right to privacy, don't leave your house. Outside those four walls, that right does not exist. Period.

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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    how is having to walk through a freakin scanner in anyway being "treated like a criminal"? just what "freedom" does this infringe upon?

    why is it that one of the last guys to make such a big deal about it turned out to have a crack pipe in his pocket and that is what set off the metal detector which lead to them wanting to scan him.
    Because we have rights and the government is restricted on how it can infringe upon them. They cannot strip search for the sake of strip searching. Something that invasive requires proper suspicion and proof of that. Just because people want to regulate government to its proper restraints does not mean that we are in fact criminals.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If you want a right to privacy, don't leave your house. Outside those four walls, that right does not exist. Period.
    since when?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If you want a right to privacy, don't leave your house. Outside those four walls, that right does not exist. Period.
    Yes it does. If I'm outside, can some random person photograph me? Sure. But does that mean that the police can randomly strip search me just because I'm outside? No, of course not. I still have reasonable expectation to protection against unreasonable search and seizure. Just because I'm outside does not mean that the government is unchained.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what about our right to privacy? this is a slippery slope.
    ah the old "slippery slope" catch all. If you want privacy don't leave your house. OMG, that dude in the car next to me looked at me...he invaded my privacy. the greeter at Walmart asked to see my receipt...he invaded my privacy. That cop asked to see my license and registration....he invaded my privacy.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    how is having to walk through a freakin scanner in anyway being "treated like a criminal"? just what "freedom" does this infringe upon?
    The right to be secure in our persons against unreasonable searches and seizures, but upon probable cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63
    why is it that one of the last guys to make such a big deal about it turned out to have a crack pipe in his pocket and that is what set off the metal detector which lead to them wanting to scan him.
    *GASP*
    A CRACK PIPE??! Heaven forbid! Then surely this is worth the taxpayer money spent, the passenger time wasted, and the civil liberties violated. There is no more important priority than finding all the crack pipes people try to smuggle onto airplanes, whatever the cost.
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    Re: What should you be subjected to in order to fly on airplane?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes it does. If I'm outside, can some random person photograph me? Sure. But does that mean that the police can randomly strip search me just because I'm outside? No, of course not. I still have reasonable expectation to protection against unreasonable search and seizure. Just because I'm outside does not mean that the government is unchained.
    I still see how it is unreasonable to ask you to walk through a damn scanner. It's not like they are asking you to publically stip and do a little dance for them.
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