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Thread: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    The harder it is for people to get weapons into a place, the more power weapons give to people who manage to smuggle them in somehow. Put a couple of armed agents on every flight and the problem disappears entirely.
    as simplistic and realistic as that answer seems on the surface, that does beg the question of how much that would cost over the long term, and whether or not that cost is prohibitive, there are thousands of domestic flights daily, I cannot see how it would be economically feasible to have an armed person on every flight (yet alone a couple) when there are thousands daily.

    The machines suck, but IMO for security they do the job required of them, and that as a whole soceity is too damn uptight if they are put off and offended by some ghostly undefined image of themselves.. even if the image made it off the machine and the public.. so what? nobody will care about your fat ass vague outlined anatomy (which one cannot even tell would belong to you) when super attractive high rez photo options are available for free.

    People are too damn uptight and a bunch of damn prudes IMO. My god, someone brushes your testes if you do not go through the screener.. holy molestation, are the same people throwing a fit when a Dr. asks them to turn their head and cough during a physical, or refuse to go get a check up from the gynecologist, or screaming molestation over a pap smear?
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I favor a security system that relies on the decision of the Airport/Airline without government backing
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Lets see.

    A "right" to health care. A seeming "right" to flying.

    Can someone please enumerate all these magical created rights we supposedly have that the government is infringing on? Its hard to keep up with them all.

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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    The harder it is for people to get weapons into a place, the more power weapons give to people who manage to smuggle them in somehow. Put a couple of armed agents on every flight and the problem disappears entirely.
    Great point. If costs are an issue, there's always the pilot and co-pilot in a locked cabin. Give them guns and training.
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    I wonder when someone will just end up bombing the TSA line. Then what? Pre-security security screening?
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    The answer to airplane security was solved the moment that people understood that the rules had changed. Before 9/11, if your plane was hijacked, you sat quietly and didn't fight back. You would land somewhere, and be ransomed back. Now the rules are different. Now hijackers are trying to hurt or kill the passengers. Now the best defense of an airplane is 200+ passengers armed with heavy luggage. Even if a dozen hijackers have machetes on the airplane (and pre-9/11 security would most certainly have caught those), the passengers would easily defeat them. Locking the cockpit door so that no one can take the pilot by surprise was a good step, but everything else that has been done since 9/11 has been totally unnecessary.

    Consider the underwear bomber. He got through security, and was found out by the other passengers. Imagine if the 9/11 hijackers had attempted their plan now. They'd probably still make it through security, but now they wouldn't be able to get to the pilot without arousing a lot of commotion, and they would be beset upon by the passengers. We already had all the security we needed in the airport. All we've done now is implement racial screening of Arab Americans, and instilled a tremendous fear in everyone. We are truly not in danger in an airplane, and it has nothing to do with making us take off our shoes.

    Even the Department of Homeland Security, who put all of these measures in place, doesn't really believe we need this protection. Otherwise there wouldn't be one fifth the number of security personnel to keep airports moving smoothly. They know it's bull, and so do we. The only weapon we need is a locked door and a little bit of awareness.
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The answer to airplane security was solved the moment that people understood that the rules had changed. Before 9/11, if your plane was hijacked, you sat quietly and didn't fight back. You would land somewhere, and be ransomed back. Now the rules are different. Now hijackers are trying to hurt or kill the passengers. Now the best defense of an airplane is 200+ passengers armed with heavy luggage. Even if a dozen hijackers have machetes on the airplane (and pre-9/11 security would most certainly have caught those), the passengers would easily defeat them. Locking the cockpit door so that no one can take the pilot by surprise was a good step, but everything else that has been done since 9/11 has been totally unnecessary.

    Consider the underwear bomber. He got through security, and was found out by the other passengers. Imagine if the 9/11 hijackers had attempted their plan now. They'd probably still make it through security, but now they wouldn't be able to get to the pilot without arousing a lot of commotion, and they would be beset upon by the passengers. We already had all the security we needed in the airport. All we've done now is implement racial screening of Arab Americans, and instilled a tremendous fear in everyone. We are truly not in danger in an airplane, and it has nothing to do with making us take off our shoes.

    Even the Department of Homeland Security, who put all of these measures in place, doesn't really believe we need this protection. Otherwise there wouldn't be one fifth the number of security personnel to keep airports moving smoothly. They know it's bull, and so do we. The only weapon we need is a locked door and a little bit of awareness.
    No system is perfect.

    Expecting that passengers will handle any threat in their airplane and thus we don't need security measures on the ground makes no sense.

    What makes you think that a passenger intent on detroying an airplane would make any scene at all? Just plain BOOM!!Even if we did agree that by making that scene other passengers would 'take him out'?

    The problem isn't with establishing security at the gates, it's the way we're doing it. If we aren't going to allow profiling, we're pissing in the wind.
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Maybe they should have the "I'll take the chance" flights. Where security is back to where it reasonably was and we'll take the risk of some terrorist coming and blowing up the plane. It would be the flights for rational people who understand what a low probability event means.
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Not possible. For the simple fact that our Federal Government is responsible for all border crossings not only of national borders but also of state borders. They have had that task since the founding of the US.
    This doesnt counter my position on privatization of the airports.
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    Re: Airport Security - Which one do you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    This doesnt counter my position on privatization of the airports.
    Considering all major airports cross state borders? Yes it does.
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