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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Well, then, you should have no trouble whatsoever addressing what I said. If it's that easy to see through, it should take no effort at all.

    Sticking your fingers in your ears and going LA LA LA does not constitute an appropriate rebuttal.
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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    It really depends on the Republican nominee. There are so many possible choices that we can't rule out.

    Also, anything can happen in two years. He could become a total Republican policy wise. He could offer actual change. Either of these possibilities will change his approval ratings.

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    I don't think he's a lame duck yet, but I would say that he is lame for not showing proper leadership to maintain control, getting his arse handed to him in November, and now alienating his party. He needs to move to the center. No more gays in the military, closing gwantawnimo, fat cat class warefare at the forefront.

    Let's get the economy rolling and then we can address the bleeding heart B.S. with more open minds...
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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    It really depends on the Republican nominee. There are so many possible choices that we can't rule out.

    Also, anything can happen in two years. He could become a total Republican policy wise. He could offer actual change. Either of these possibilities will change his approval ratings.
    Not gonna happen.. He does? He will lose my support!
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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    I don't think he's a lame duck yet, but I would say that he is lame for not showing proper leadership to maintain control, getting his arse handed to him in November, and now alienating his party. He needs to move to the center. No more gays in the military, closing gwantawnimo, fat cat class warefare at the forefront.

    Let's get the economy rolling and then we can address the bleeding heart B.S. with more open minds...
    There will always be gays in the military-always have been and always will be. People need to deal and get the hell over it.
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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Not gonna happen.. He does? He will lose my support!
    I know, and he'll push a lot of his base over to the point where they either don't vote or they vote for an independent. Lets be honest... he's not going to get any Republican votes. That segment of the voting population will remain fairly constant. Some Republicans might say they approve of him, but ultimately very little (by definition, none) will vote for him. Independents are the segment that can swing back and forth. Currently only about 42% of them approve of him, and that's not even those who will vote for him. Then there's the Democrats. It's unacceptable for a President to lose his base; they're the only segment that will solidly vote for him.

    If he loses the Democrats he loses the Presidency. It's really that simple. No matter how far to the right he goes, he can't get enough votes. Even if he became the most conservative guy in government the conservative base want real lardy chocolate milk, not this low fat watery crap (thanks, Glenn Beck :P)

    Therefore, at least politically it's a good move to generally not get your base approval below 3/4

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali
    There will always be gays in the military-always have been and always will be. People need to deal and get the hell over it.
    Absolutely, even a repeal of DADT won't put gays into the military, it'll just allow those that already serve to comment on their sexuality... DADT doesn't get rid of homosexuals, it just makes them secret >_>

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Chappy got it right on the last page. Let's not change the meaning of "lame duck". It's the term for politicians that are in office yet are no longer able to run for re-election.

    You might use 'dead duck', because 'lame duck' is already taken.
    Go back to history class.

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    So, the sum total of your argument is now a broad generalization based on a prediction of future events.

    My argument is to point out:
    • The composition of the next Congress, over which neither party has definitive control
    • That the Republicans had to make "historic" gains in order to come back from having so little power to having roughly half of the power
    . . . and to say, "So what was so decisive about the election, again?"

    You have yet to decisively address either of those points beyond simply shaking a stick at me and shouting LOL DECISIVE.

    It's kind of sad, actually.
    Your point was the election was not a decisive victory. Shall we go back to the contentious post? It was decisive, historic and game changing.

    And you crap on my reasoning of political pressure, and claim the election is not decisive (which was an idiotic statement) by making "a prediction of future events" of your own. But you're God and have the Godly Crystal Ball... ROTFLOL. That Krauthammer endorsed my view... I think speaks to some level of understanding politics. Yes, you have those that endorse yours too... the one, the only... Nancy Pelosi. My, what nice company you keep.

    You suspect that in this game changing political environment Dems will vote party line, all-day... everyday. Perhaps they will... but not if they want a hope of survival. The Tea Party movement is not going away.

    The election was decisive, historic and game changing. Only a fool would state otherwise.

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    I think he's more of a non-offensive gazelle actually...

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So having no cohesive plan, pledging cuts they will never do, arguing for cuttings programs they scared the voters into thinking Obama will, preventing security bills necessary to America's defense and otherwise having no actual policy positions means "you won decisively?" That's some crazy talk there. Did the Democrats win decisively in 2006? No. The Republicans gave them the election.
    Junior... the election was historic, game changing... decisive. You can throw in whatever you believe they sold across the country... but in short the people were pissed at the spending and ObamaKare.

    They won in a historic fashion.

    Don't you ever tire of getting your ass kicked Junior?

    McConnell outright stated they don't have positions on a wide variety of topics, from China to trade. The mantra of the GOP is no to everything Obama says. That's not a policy position.
    Doesn't change the fact the election was decisive.

    How much do tickets to your delusional train ride cost?
    I have no idea... let me know when you find out. I'll pass it on to your relatives just in case you forget to take your meds.

    Which basically means jacking up the deficit. And Obamacare is nothing more than an old Republican idea.
    Yeah... for 100-years R's have been itching to inch towards ObamaKare and KanuckistaniKare. Forcing people to by insurance, and fining them if they do not? That's the Republican's position??? In your mind perhaps.

    It's hilarious watching diehard hacks like you come out against former Republican policy positions merely because a Democrat is pushing it.
    You are as thick as a brick. The argument has been about a line T.E.D. posted ages ago about the election not being either decisive or historic... but you pull your age-old tactics of trying to twist the argument and put words into folks mouths that never uttered them.

    You just can't seem to expunge that poison from your system. But I will always help you overcome this mental disorder whenever I can.

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