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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Oh, wait, I get it.

    You keep throwing meaningless tripe at me, rather than actually responding to what I actually say because at some point you figure I'll go away and let you have the last word.

    Well, that makes a lot more sense.
    Look, you had a Pelosi-Moment and have no defense for it.

    The Republicans did not decisively win the election.
    That statement is utter nonsense, and you're wearing out your Spin-O-Matic.

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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    If you had stated, the election did not bring a decisive result for the coming Congress, I might buy it, but you didn't. You stated...
    The Republicans did not decisively win the election.
    ... which is an entirely different proposition. Then you try to justify why it wasn't decisive and historic. That's an all world face-plant buddy.

    FAIL.

    The latter, or any other Pelosi-like rationalization does not negate the former... the truth.

    You throw fuel onto your already burning fire with the following:
    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I explained why I think the Republican victory wasn't decisive and wasn't historic.
    The election was an overwhelming victory for Republicans. It was decisive and it was historic. It is game changing. Even the journOlists couldn't deny the historic nature of the win.

    But you can, because you're Pelosi-like.

    I hear The Clintons are coming out with a new and improved Spin-O-Matic... you might want to look into getting one.

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    After his term as president of Amerika, he'd be the ideal Secretary-General of the UN. He'd feel right at home leading that anti-American body.

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    I do not think that the UN is "anti-American".
    But, if it is, then WHY????

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And that is a problem?
    IMO, its one huge problem; we need a man we can trust, one with vision, one with oratory skills to counter the spin and lies from the right.
    Maddow, Matthews, Olbermann try, but do not represent the majority very well.....
    Instead, like the Republicians, they represent the fringes..

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I explained why I think the Republican victory wasn't decisive and wasn't historic.

    You've utterly failed to respond to the points I've raised beyond LOL DECISIVE.

    When you get around to actually addressing what I've said, I'll be interested to read it.
    In the following video, Charles Krauthammer explains what I stated earlier. With many Dems up for grabs in the Senate, they will go along with R legislation coming out of the House.

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Krauthammer Responds To "Shout-Out" From Bill Clinton

    The election was decisive, historic and game changing.

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    With many Dems up for grabs in the Senate, they will go along with R legislation coming out of the House.
    So, the sum total of your argument is now a broad generalization based on a prediction of future events.

    My argument is to point out:
    • The composition of the next Congress, over which neither party has definitive control
    • That the Republicans had to make "historic" gains in order to come back from having so little power to having roughly half of the power
    . . . and to say, "So what was so decisive about the election, again?"

    You have yet to decisively address either of those points beyond simply shaking a stick at me and shouting LOL DECISIVE.

    It's kind of sad, actually.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Minority in the Senate and ~55% in the house... yeah, not exactly decisive. Yes, they gained a crapload of seats, but that just shows you how badly they had been trounced in 2006 and 2008. It took a nearly unprecedented number of gains just to put them at a bit above even, and they didn't even manage to take a majority in the Senate. (although I think they could have, if they'd done better at picking sane candidates)
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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    My understanding of the term "lame duck" at least with regard to the presidency is one where either by declaration or rule the incumbent is no longer a candidate for re-election. Barack Obama will run for re-election so he's not a lame duck. Period.
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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Oh my!

    Has Pelosi joined Debate Politics? "did not decisively win the election"... ROTFLOL... Upstate NY importing BC Bud?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...idterms-5.html

    Try again Zimmer Fail.

    Earth to Nancy... ahhhhhhhh... the second largest midterm swing in history???..."did not decisively win the election"??? ROTFLOL...
    So having no cohesive plan, pledging cuts they will never do, arguing for cuttings programs they scared the voters into thinking Obama will, preventing security bills necessary to America's defense and otherwise having no actual policy positions means "you won decisively?" That's some crazy talk there. Did the Democrats win decisively in 2006? No. The Republicans gave them the election.

    McConnell outright stated they don't have positions on a wide variety of topics, from China to trade. The mantra of the GOP is no to everything Obama says. That's not a policy position.

    As for the Senate, had the entire Senate been up for grabs, we would have kicked scrotum hard there too... but we made very decent progress... 23-seats are up in 2012... hold on to your sack, we're gonna boot yer junk... and hard.
    How much do tickets to your delusional train ride cost?

    I don't mind if nothing gets done, except starving ObamaKare.
    Which basically means jacking up the deficit. And Obamacare is nothing more than an old Republican idea.

    It's hilarious watching diehard hacks like you come out against former Republican policy positions merely because a Democrat is pushing it.
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    Re: Is Obama a lame duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    How can you call it a decisive win when nobody controls the government?
    How do you call it decisive when the party that won has no actual plan for anything than "No Obama?"
    How do you call it decisive when the party that won pushes a budget plan that is mathematically impossible to pull off?
    How do you call it decisive when the party that won is pushing to cut programs they defended against the Democrats?
    How do you call it decisive when the party that won wants to enact policies that historically never worked against financial recessions?

    The Republicans are just as lost and hopeless as the Democrats. What is morbidly funny is people like Zimmer can't figure that out.
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