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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    stop trolling Guy. Blackdog is no lefty and you are well known for your contrarian games on this subject. You are the liberal not BD.
    Apparently he's to the left of me on gun rights, and frankly that is all I know about the man.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Why don't you tell us what you think the second amendment means and what you want or don't want in gun control rather constantly attacking other peoples' positions without ever really defending one on your own.
    I'm constantly defending my own position. I'm utterly pro-gun, I advocate no restrictions beyond those contained in the second amendment. I'm a big advocate of responsible gun ownership also, and I believe it is a social good that promotes a free society. Let me know if you need me to clear anything else up.
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I'm constantly defending my own position. I'm utterly pro-gun, I advocate no restrictions beyond those contained in the second amendment. I'm a big advocate of responsible gun ownership also, and I believe it is a social good that promotes a free society. Let me know if you need me to clear anything else up.
    And yet you voted "yes" in the poll???

    Are restrictions on the purchase/sale of firearms constitutional?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yes, in my opinion there can be restrictions.
    "infringe: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another"
    If you make it more difficult, you are infringing.
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And yet you voted "yes" in the poll???
    Yes, some restrictions on the purchase and sale like taxes, licenses, etc are constitutional.

    The reason why some restrictions on sale, like a five day waiting period, are unconstitutional, is because they infringe the right to keep and bear. Mere restrictions on the purchase and sale are permissible, the question is what impact on the right to keep and bear arms do the restrictions have.
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Apparently he's to the left of me on gun rights, and frankly that is all I know about the man.



    I'm constantly defending my own position. I'm utterly pro-gun, I advocate no restrictions beyond those contained in the second amendment. I'm a big advocate of responsible gun ownership also, and I believe it is a social good that promotes a free society. Let me know if you need me to clear anything else up.

    LOL Guy, I am an expert on this issue, as both someone who has taught this subject and I have represented everything from small dealers to Class II manufacturers (machine gun makers). You aren't going to fool me with your claims. There are NO RESTRICTIONS IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT ON ANY ENTITY OTHER THAN CONGRESS (the federal government) so stop the nonsense.



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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yes, some restrictions on the purchase and sale like taxes, licenses, etc are constitutional.
    wrong Guy. licenses to own are not constitutional because no part of the constitution delegated that power to the federal government. Try again



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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yes, the restrictions on the purchase and sale like taxes, licenses, etc are constitutional.
    Wait. You want to restrict the purchase of firearms by the citizenry, but you want "no restrictions beyond those contained in the second amendment."
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Wait. You want to restrict the purchase of firearms by the citizenry, but you want "no restrictions beyond those contained in the second amendment."
    What are you talking about? I do not want to restrict the purchase of fire arms by the citizenry. But the state has a right to decide who can be a gun dealer, and issue licenses as such. That's a restriction on sale. Get it?

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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Wait. You want to restrict the purchase of firearms by the citizenry, but you want "no restrictions beyond those contained in the second amendment."
    One of the sure signs of someone who is clueless about the constitution is when they state that the bill of rights actually restricts the RIGHTS of the citizens rather than the EXERCISE OF POWER by the federal government. THe Bill of RIghts contains NO restrictions on the inalienable rights the founders presumed existed PRIOR to establishment of the constitution.



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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    What are you talking about? I do not want to restrict the purchase of fire arms by the citizenry. But the state has a right to decide who can be a gun dealer, and issue licenses as such. That's a restriction on sale. Get it?
    local or federal government? lets be precise



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