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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    there are many uses for a comma

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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So it is your interpretation that the state can regulate the militia but NOT the citizenry?
    It seems highly likely that "well regulated" simply means well trained and the like - as opposed to a mob of civilians waving pitchforks and torches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    It seems highly likely that "well regulated" simply means well trained and the like - as opposed to a mob of civilians waving pitchforks and torches.
    That is what it meant at time, absolutely.
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    and you know this because....??????
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    and you know this because....??????
    Because unlike some, I've studied the issue.
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    Excellent answer. Could you please provide some objective evidence to support this viewpoint? Supreme Court decisions which define the term as you see it would do quite nicely.
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Excellent answer. Could you please provide some objective evidence to support this viewpoint? Supreme Court decisions which define the term as you see it would do quite nicely.
    What’s the point?

    It's blatantly obvious that the writers were referring to training and discipline when they wrote “a well regulated militia…”.

    What ELSE could they have been talking about?

    Edit: Well never mind then, see above post...
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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Of course the militias, or military, should be regulated. However, people who make this classic argument against gun rights based on the mention of a regulated militia are forgetting something very simple in the interpretation:

    THERE'S A COMMA NEXT TO STATE, explicitly stating that both a regulated militia, AND the individual citizenry, have the right to possess arms.
    Read it again...

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    You just flunked your English test. A comma means a PAUSE, not AND...

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    Re: 2nd amendment rights.

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