View Poll Results: Your Identity and For/Against this SS Reform model

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    1 1.10%
  • Democrat and Against

    21 23.08%
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    2 2.20%
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    22 24.18%
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    9 9.89%
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Thread: Social Security Fix

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    you're 63. the GOP options wouldn't effect you at all.

    I understand that CP but its not just all about me, what about the person that is 58 and has been paying 40 yrs or the person 54 thats been paying 35 yrs ?

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I understand that CP but its not just all about me, what about the person that is 58 and has been paying 40 yrs or the person 54 thats been paying 35 yrs ?
    he see's no changes, either.

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    he see's no changes, either.

    Theres alot of different proposals out there I may not be up on the latest...So I defer to you

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Theres alot of different proposals out there I may not be up on the latest...So I defer to you
    all that i have seen are generally uniform on not applying to anyone over 55.

    but here is the Republican House Budget Committee Chairmans' plan.

    Preserves the existing Social Security program for those 55 or older.

    Offers workers under 55 the option of investing over one third of their current Social Security taxes into personal retirement accounts, similar to the Thrift Savings Plan available to Federal employees. Includes a property right so they can pass on these assets to their heirs, and a guarantee that individuals will not lose a dollar they contribute to their accounts, even after inflation.

    Makes the program permanently solvent – according to the Congressional Budget Office [CBO] – by combining a more realistic measure of growth in Social Security’s initial benefits, with an eventual modernization of the retirement age.


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    Last edited by cpwill; 03-31-11 at 09:09 AM.

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    all that i have seen are generally uniform on not applying to anyone over 55.

    but here is the Republican House Budget Committee Chairmans' plan.
    Well then I wasnt all wrong a person 54 who has been forced into paying into social security for 35yrs or more takes a hit...

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by reaper View Post
    I am for privatization of Social Security or having private accounts for each individual.
    I'm for individual freedom too, but unfortunately only about ten percent have enough sense and discipline to take care of themselves and their families. I hate to think what kind of terrible depression we'd be in right now, had the government not forced us all to save for a rainy day.

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    I'm for individual freedom too, but unfortunately only about ten percent have enough sense and discipline to take care of themselves and their families. I hate to think what kind of terrible depression we'd be in right now, had the government not forced us all to save for a rainy day.

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    So why not let those ten percent opt out?
    Give a man a fish, or he will destroy the only existing vial of antidote.

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    I'm for individual freedom too, but unfortunately only about ten percent have enough sense and discipline to take care of themselves and their families. I hate to think what kind of terrible depression we'd be in right now, had the government not forced us all to save for a rainy day.

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    Thats precisely the problem you hit it right on the head...if you give choice to all and most dont make enough to do it or are responsible enough...in the end you will pay anyway and pay more.

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Well then I wasnt all wrong a person 54 who has been forced into paying into social security for 35yrs or more takes a hit...
    yes. he has to wait a couple of extra months to get his checks. in return for which the system doesn't go bankrupt and throw him off the rolls when he's 70. I'd call that an acceptable loss.

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    Re: Social Security Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    I'm for individual freedom too, but unfortunately only about ten percent have enough sense and discipline to take care of themselves and their families. I hate to think what kind of terrible depression we'd be in right now, had the government not forced us all to save for a rainy day.

    ricksfolly
    given that the government spends our SS money as soon as it comes in, how, exactly, has the government forced us (who let us recall have recently hit negative savings rates) to save money?

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