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    Does defense justify torture?

    Amnesty International wants Bush prosecuted for his roll in waterboarding. One of the defenses of Bush I have come across is that torture is when used to defend innocent lives. I will admit, it is an interesting question for me to explore.

    What is your opinion?

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    I do believe that national defense justifies forms of torture. Saving lives should be the priority and not the comfort or rights of terrorists and suspects.
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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    I disagree that waterboarding is torture, but if you care to call it that then my answer is "Yes"
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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    I quite honestly do not know. I do not like torture, but in concrete examples where it has helped defend a people from an attack, it is hard to argue with the results except if it has changed us as a people.
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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I do believe that national defense justifies forms of torture. Saving lives should be the priority and not the comfort or rights of terrorists and suspects.
    I agree with everything but the bolded portion.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    torture to get information used to save lives

    torture to get some dirtbag to admit he stole some ****..... no
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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Sometimes laws should be broken.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I quite honestly do not know. I do not like torture, but in concrete examples where it has helped defend a people from an attack, it is hard to argue with the results except if it has changed us as a people.
    exactly. i speak as someone who has probably had his life saved as a result of the IP's torturing a prisoner they had captured. the biggest problem with torture is that it does break people, and it can be used to get quality information.





    my opinion on torture is, it should be generally illegal. and allowed. in a ticking bomb type scenario, we should have some kind of automatic trial process which allows for the kind of interrogation necessary to save lives, while still allowing for punative action to be taken against those who make that decision, should they prove to have abused the standards. frankly, if you're willing to risk your life for your country, you should also be willing to risk 15 years in jail.





    that being said; we waterboard our own troops and interogators. those who participated in the Enhanced Interrogation program under Bush had all those techniques performed on them before they performed them on others (you have to understand exactly what the effects are in order to make use of them). i'm thinking the method in which we went about it isn't torture (at least, that's what the DOJ said), and if it was, then in the cases where it was used, then it was justified.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I agree with everything but the bolded portion.
    By suspects I mean people who are suspected to know information or those within terrorist organizations/ties that haven't committed acts of terror. I do feel that they should still be interrogated as I put safety above their rights. I wouldn't support this for someone we have no evidence of conspiring with terrorists or terrorism.
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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Good guys don't torture. And good guys wouldn't have to in the first place.

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