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Thread: Does defense justify torture?

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, you're changing the subject.
    I've been trying to make this argument about my feeling about the government torturing people the whole time I've been responding. You're the one who keeps trying to make it about me personally.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No, you stated an opinion. You didnt present anything that leads to a sound conclusion.

    You also skipped this AGAIN:
    And yet you agree that when faced with two choices that are wrong, you take the one that causes the least harm.
    Reconcile these positions.
    Feel free to continue splitting hairs and moving the goalposts. We're done here.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I'm not sure how you were insulted.
    Sure thing, coward.

    We're done here.
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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Feel free to continue splitting hairs and moving the goalposts. We're done here.
    Asking you to lay out a sound argument, rather than simply stating an opinion, isn't splitting hairs.
    But, I accept your concession of the point.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    But, I accept your concession of the point.
    I am not conceding anything.

    Fell free to hallucinate victory if it makes you feel better.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I've been trying to make this argument about my feeling about the government torturing people the whole time I've been responding. You're the one who keeps trying to make it about me personally.
    Well, no; you made it about yourself:

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I agree.

    Mere survival makes us no better than the beasts of the wild.

    I'd much prefer to die a human than live as an animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Such over-the-top absolutism is asinine. You're saying you'd choose death -- or the death of a loved one -- over making a morally suspect choice in every single instance.
    It is not, to me, morally suspect. It's ****ing evil.

    So yeah, I'd make that choice every single time.

    So, I take it, you would beat the location of your daughter out of a guy to keep her from being hacked to death? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I am not conceding anything.
    Sure you are. You're conceding that your position isnt based on a sound argument, only your subjective opinion.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, no; you made it about yourself:
    No, you changed the subject and I slipped and let you get away with it by responding in kind. That was a mistake on my part, I got caught up in the moment.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sure you are. You're conceding that your position isnt based on a sound argument, only your subjective opinion.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Does defense justify torture?

    Oh, another fatal flaw in this thread . . .

    Some are arguing, apparently, about making "torture" a policy, while others are talking about a "ticking bomb" situation. Not the same thing at all. This, too, goes back to the equivocal language in the original post.
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