View Poll Results: Is complete nuclear disarmament a good idea?

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  • No, but stockpiles should be reduced.

    13 27.66%
  • No, stockpiles should be maintained at current levels.

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  • No, stockpiles should be increased

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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Were the United States to be invaded and conquered, would the government use its nuclear arsenal to turn the tide of the war?
    Who could possibly have a prayer of "conquering" the United States?

    That said, if national survival were on the line, then yes, we absolutely would -- and absolutely should.
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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Who could possibly have a prayer of "conquering" the United States?
    France.
    Duh.

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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Who could possibly have a prayer of "conquering" the United States?
    With all the different people in the US, a foreign power conquering would be virtually impossible.
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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    With all the different people in the US, a foreign power conquering would be virtually impossible.
    The only way it happens iis if we let it. The logistical needs alone are staggering, and no country (or economic block) on earth has the means to meet them.

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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Who could possibly have a prayer of "conquering" the United States?

    That said, if national survival were on the line, then yes, we absolutely would -- and absolutely should.
    Your first statement is only arrogant, and I can accept that. You don't want to even allow for the possibility of such an event, and in all fairness, it's unlikely considering world power balances today. If you want to go into some sort of complex scenario where World War III kicks off, the American army is engaged in the Middle East, and Russia and China launch a surprise invasion or something of that ridiculous nature, we could do so -- nothing is impossible. But that's not important, it's just a hypothetical.

    Your second statement, however, is downright ignorant, xenophobic and hateful. You're saying that, were America to be invaded and conquered, the entire world ought to be destroyed for it? I can't believe such levels of nationalistic arrogance. What your second statement boils down to is, "Americans are the only people worth having on this Earth, and if they were to go, the entire world might as well be depopulated."

    Surely you don't believe that?

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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Your first statement is only arrogant, and I can accept that. You don't want to even allow for the possibility of such an event, and in all fairness, it's unlikely considering world power balances today. If you want to go into some sort of complex scenario where World War III kicks off, the American army is engaged in the Middle East, and Russia and China launch a surprise invasion or something of that ridiculous nature, we could do so -- nothing is impossible. But that's not important, it's just a hypothetical.

    Your second statement, however, is downright ignorant, xenophobic and hateful. You're saying that, were America to be invaded and conquered, the entire world ought to be destroyed for it? I can't believe such levels of nationalistic arrogance. What your second statement boils down to is, "Americans are the only people worth having on this Earth, and if they were to go, the entire world might as well be depopulated."
    Surely you don't believe that?

    This is a ridiculous statement exhibiting a lack of understanding of nuclear weapons. The use of a few tactical nukes... or even a few dozen... would hardly "depopulate the world."

    Even the use of dozens of strategic nukes on enemy cities wouldn't do that, not by a long shot.


    Read up on the subject. I suggest some technical texts rather than left-wing publications.

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    Re: Is nuclear disarmament a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Your second statement, however, is downright ignorant, xenophobic and hateful. You're saying that, were America to be invaded and conquered, the entire world ought to be destroyed for it?
    I don't believe Harshaw was arguing that the U.S. would or should use its entire nuclear arsenal against the world. I believe he was arguing in favor of a limited nuclear onslaught against the enemy state, not total nuclear warfare.

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