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    How much do you care about taxing income

    This is something that hit me while reading kandahar's interesting "how much do you care about the budget" post.

    Conservatives...if faced with the choice of lowering lower and middle class taxes but raising the rich's taxes, or keeping everyone at the place they're at now, which would you pick?

    Liberals...if faced with the choice of lowering everyones taxes, or keeping eveyrone at the place they're at now, which would you pick?

    This is a general thing, not necessarily relating directly to your choic during the economic crisis.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This is something that hit me while reading kandahar's interesting "how much do you care about the budget" post.

    Conservatives...if faced with the choice of lowering lower and middle class taxes but raising the rich's taxes, or keeping everyone at the place they're at now, which would you pick?

    Liberals...if faced with the choice of lowering everyones taxes, or keeping eveyrone at the place they're at now, which would you pick?

    This is a general thing, not necessarily relating directly to your choic during the economic crisis.
    Decrease whenever possible. However, don't take on government debt to do it.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This is something that hit me while reading kandahar's interesting "how much do you care about the budget" post.

    Conservatives...if faced with the choice of lowering lower and middle class taxes but raising the rich's taxes, or keeping everyone at the place they're at now, which would you pick?

    Liberals...if faced with the choice of lowering everyones taxes, or keeping eveyrone at the place they're at now, which would you pick?

    This is a general thing, not necessarily relating directly to your choic during the economic crisis.
    If my taxes are raised, everyone's taxes should be raised. If my taxes are lowered, everyone's taxes should be lowered. Every single American should have a dog in the fight when it comes to Federal spending. Every single one.
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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    One unfortunate aspect of tax policy is the unspoken debate between fairness and practicality.

    People paying the same rates or amounts, is in a sense fair, but tends to be impractical in the face of economic reality. Generally when one takes those economic realities into account, a more progressive tax scheme begins to seem fair as well.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If my taxes are raised, everyone's taxes should be raised. If my taxes are lowered, everyone's taxes should be lowered. Every single American should have a dog in the fight when it comes to Federal spending. Every single one.
    I agree that everyone should have a dog in the fight. What if everyone was taxed at the same rate? The rich would still pay more, because they make more. The lower income people would still get their food stamps (maybe more than before) and would probably require more government help than before, but at least they would be paying something
    We also need to make those who are able, work for their welfare checks. Too many free rides are given and I honestly believe people would be happier if they didn't feel like they were just getting handouts. So I say, taxes for everyone.
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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    We also need to make those who are able, work for their welfare checks. Too many free rides are given and I honestly believe people would be happier if they didn't feel like they were just getting handouts. So I say, taxes for everyone.
    I completely agree with this. There is always something to do, like pick up trash or work at the landfill.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Well, if you're in the lower 47% of households in this country, you don't care much about federal income taxes because you don't pay any, as in zip, nada, zilch. If you're in the bottom 40%, you actually make money at tax time because of "earned" tax credits. That's according to a 2009 IRS statement that was even published in the Huffinton Post, so it's gotta be true. That fact drives progressive liberals right up the wall and puts the lie to what Obama keeps pushing about "Fat Cats" not paying their "fair share". The truth is the top brackets pay a lot more than their fair share. But, don't take my word for it. Here it is from Miss Arianna herself.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_529059.html
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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If my taxes are raised, everyone's taxes should be raised. If my taxes are lowered, everyone's taxes should be lowered. Every single American should have a dog in the fight when it comes to Federal spending. Every single one.
    I agree 100%. This whole mentality some folks have of "Raise someone else's taxes to pay for my entitlements" is very corrupting. As another poster mentioned, almost half of all households don't pay federal taxes and some of them actually profit from tax credits. When nearly half the population has no reason to worry about paying for the latest government expansion, it's almost impossible to maintain any sense of fiscal responsibility. If I didn't pay any taxes, I'd be all in favor of the governmetn spending as much money as possible, especially on programs that would be benefit me! Afterall, I don't have to worry about the bill.

    I'd make two major changes to our tax system. First, EVERYONE pays some form of federal income tax. When it's your money being spent, you tend to pay more attention to how its being spent. That way everyone has a vested interest in asking "How will we pay for this?" when someone proposes a new program or entitlement. Secondly, I'd require than any change in the tax rate be applied evenly to all brackets. None of this, we'll raise some folks taxes and cut other folks. We're all in this together, as a nation, and we should all be treated equally. I'm not opposed to progressive taxation, but I am opposed to using progressive taxation to wage class warfare.
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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Where is the option about I don't care eitherway because I'm still going to get ****ed one way or the other?
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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    One unfortunate aspect of tax policy is the unspoken debate between fairness and practicality.

    People paying the same rates or amounts, is in a sense fair, but tends to be impractical in the face of economic reality. Generally when one takes those economic realities into account, a more progressive tax scheme begins to seem fair as well.
    A tax system can be progressive but also have the requirement that, if one bracket is raised, they are all raised (or lowered in the case of negative brackets.)
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