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Thread: How much do you care about taxing income

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What?? #1 -- what additional support? I'm asking that people pay income tax. Ya' know, actually pay toward the infrastructure they use? #2 -- what does social assistance have to do with this? #3 -- what does the size of government have to do with people paying some income tax? #4 -- Huh?

    I don't get anything you're saying, Mega. Not trying to be difficult. I just don't understand. 47% of people don't pay income tax. Everybody should pay income tax.
    See my post above (#20) to see what leads me to asking those questions.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I tend to look at it from a creating the behavior on society that you think would benefit society perspective, which is social engineering.

    You look at it from a fair perspective, which is not.

    Its all about intent. My goal is to produce more productive members of society through government intervention, since looking back at history, nonintervention has lead to all sorts of misery.

    Also, my idea of fair is different than yours. For me, to say that people should pay the same amounts is fair ignores the consequences, which can be very unfair. But I think that is a common argument between liberal and conservative/libertarian economic approaches.
    I'm tolerant to some amount of unfairness (as perceived by libertarians), as long as there is some amount of communal responsibility involved, that is required by all members of society.
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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Neither.
    Obama, stand up to those rich ******** and make them pay.
    35% up to 300K
    36% up to 500K
    37% up to 700K
    and 40% for the millionaires.
    If they don't like this, then suggest the old 1949 tax rates, where the rate was 90% for the millionaires.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Neither.
    Obama, stand up to those rich ******** and make them pay.
    35% up to 300K
    36% up to 500K
    37% up to 700K
    and 40% for the millionaires.
    If they don't like this, then suggest the old 1949 tax rates, where the rate was 90% for the millionaires.
    I wouldn't suggest the old tax rates as those numbers are not pegged to inflation.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Neither.
    Obama, stand up to those rich ******** and make them pay.
    35% up to 300K
    36% up to 500K
    37% up to 700K
    and 40% for the millionaires.
    If they don't like this, then suggest the old 1949 tax rates, where the rate was 90% for the millionaires.
    Yes, let's drive as much capital offshore as possible! Brilliant idea!!


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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Neither.
    Obama, stand up to those rich ******** and make them pay.
    35% up to 300K
    36% up to 500K
    37% up to 700K
    and 40% for the millionaires.
    If they don't like this, then suggest the old 1949 tax rates, where the rate was 90% for the millionaires.
    Minimum wage was 43-cents an hour in 1949. Not quite apples/apples. Also interesting -- the tax rate for people making $4,000 a year at that time was 16.6%. Yeah! Let's go back to that!!
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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Neither.
    Obama, stand up to those rich ******** and make them pay.
    35% up to 300K
    36% up to 500K
    37% up to 700K
    and 40% for the millionaires.
    If they don't like this, then suggest the old 1949 tax rates, where the rate was 90% for the millionaires.
    As with kandahar's thread, "neither" is not a choice here. This is a "If you had to choose one, which would you choose" type of situation.

    By choosing "neither" you're essentially defaulting to maintaining the status quo anyways. What you go on to say and talk about isn't the point or the topic of this thread.

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Minimum wage was 43-cents an hour in 1949. Not quite apples/apples. Also interesting -- the tax rate for people making $4,000 a year at that time was 16.6%. Yeah! Let's go back to that!!
    In real dollar terms: 43 cents in 1949= $3.93 in 2010, while $4000= $32,080 in 2010.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Neither.
    Obama, stand up to those rich ******** and make them pay.
    35% up to 300K
    36% up to 500K
    37% up to 700K
    and 40% for the millionaires.
    If they don't like this, then suggest the old 1949 tax rates, where the rate was 90% for the millionaires.
    you lefties love a system where your masters can buy the votes of the many by promising them that only those making over X amount will face tax hikes

    how about you paying the same amount out of your next dollar as a millionaire? He will still pay many more times than you do and yet he gets absolutely no additional benefits from what the income tax pays for than you do



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    Re: How much do you care about taxing income

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you lefties love a system where your masters can buy the votes of the many by promising them that only those making over X amount will face tax hikes

    how about you paying the same amount out of your next dollar as a millionaire? He will still pay many more times than you do and yet he gets absolutely no additional benefits from what the income tax pays for than you do
    The millionaire buys peace. Its value is incalculable.

    Although I don't strictly agree with the sentiment espoused.
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