View Poll Results: How much do you care about balancing the federal budget (in the medium/long term)?

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  • I am a Republican/conservative; low taxes are more important than a low deficit

    1 3.70%
  • I am a Republican/conservative; a low deficit is more important than low taxes

    10 37.04%
  • I am a Democrat/liberal; high spending is more important than a low deficit

    7 25.93%
  • I am a Democrat/liberal; a low deficit is more important than high spending

    9 33.33%
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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And a bunch of other things. The point is you're trying to tie health care reform to deficit reduction, which only indicates a lack of seriousness regarding the issue.


    SocSec is an entitlement program like all of the others. Like all of the others, it needs cut if there is to be any serious attempt to reduce the deficit.
    You know, if the gubberment wanted to refund me all the money I put in to SS and Medicare, and then do away with them both, I'd be cool with that.

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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it's less lower taxes on those who will spend it, and more lower taxes on those who will invest it wisely. capital gains taxes, for example, are particularly susceptible to changes in rate. an 8 point drop (such as what Clinton signed) will raise both productivity and revenues in ways that an 8 point drop in income taxes simply won't.

    the piper must indeed be paid. but much of what we plan to owe the piper can be avoided. long term, we're going to have to drastically reduce what we pay out in entitlements if we want to avoid insolvency; and public employee pension plans are set to bankrupt local and state governments across the nation.

    my vote; move Medicare onto a voucher program, allow people under 55 to put 5 of their 7% tax rate into privatized accounts (that way people are paying 2% into the system who represent no future liability, but are still themselves provided for), get rid of the Air Force (fold it's responsibilities back into an Army Air Corps and move it's space functions into what's left of NASA after we get rid of all non-defense portions). get rid of all non-defense and law-enorcement related subsidies; sell off our unneeded land and gold. open Alaska and our coasts to drilling and tax the same. end earmarks, cut current alternate entitlements into block grants that are phased out over time to return proper state responsibilities to the states. revoke the executive order allowing federal employees to unionize. then we'll talk about tax hikes, in the context of simplifying the code to reduce compliance costs.
    Ugh. I don't think I want to live in the same country that you appear to want to live in. Please stay away from Maine. We cannot afford to have people drilling off our coast ( So much for your "state' rights credibility, B.T.W.)....Sure, lowering the capital gains tax is an excellent way for gov't to gain revenue, short term. I've taken advantage of that sort of window, myself... but the economy will not grow until spenders have money to spend. Henry Ford knew that.
    Corporations are buying up their own stock, right now, with super low interest rates rather than go out on a limb to hire more employees. Hey, we are all savers, now -scared about our present and future liabilities. And with politicians and pundits suggesting that S. Sec. is insolvent and homes are losing value, who should be surprised? Thank Wall Street for this wreckage.

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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    I am for states rights and if a state wants to ban drilling from their land and coasts they should have the right to do so. But I also think that state should have to pay through the nose if they wanted to buy any petroleum products.

    Everybody wants nuclear energy but nobody wants to take the waste. Same with oil.

    How about just all 50 states shut down oil production and we just buy it all from Iran?
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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Social Security needs only a minor adjustment? Hmmm? Okay. : And what, pray tell, would that "minor" adjustment be? I never realized the solution was so simple. So, you must tell.......thousands of economists and 535 members of Congress need to know. Also, feel free to tell us SPECIFICALLY what the implications of your "minor adjustment would be.
    That is right. It can be easily fixed by raising the ceiling a small amount on income taxed for Soc.Sec. and raising the retirement age a year or two. I can promise you that Congress and thousands of economists already know this.

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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    I am no economist, but SS looks to me to be kinda like a ponzi scheme.

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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And a bunch of other things. The point is you're trying to tie health care reform to deficit reduction, which only indicates a lack of seriousness regarding the issue.


    SocSec is an entitlement program like all of the others. Like all of the others, it needs cut if there is to be any serious attempt to reduce the deficit.
    S.Sec is not like aany other entitlement. Social security has been payed into by millions of Americans, including me. Soc. Sec. may need to be tweeked to pay for the temporary demographic bulge of baby boomer retirees but any suggestion of reniging onthe program is synonymous with a declarartion that all bond holders are carrying worthless paper! It has been borrowed by gov't and it is owed to those who have payed into it.

    Health care is a completely different ball of wax. It is a run away train. Sensible rationing MUST take place. We cannot continue to spend countless billions on a fee for service entitlement that fails to draw any lines in the sand about quality or outcomes. Why are Republicans sabotaging this vital national discussion??

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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I am no economist, but SS looks to me to be kinda like a ponzi scheme.
    Are people going to stop reproducing?

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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Do you generally favor lower taxes and lower spending? If so, vote as a conservative. Do you generally favor more taxes and more spending? If so, vote as a liberal. There is limited space when writing the poll options to account for every possibility.
    Thats rubbish. Im just not going to vote
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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Are people going to stop reproducing?
    Not if I can help it. LOL!

    I think that if the courses of nature remained the same, the pyramidal concept of SS would continue to be solvent. As long as there are always several people available to support the SS receipient and the ratio maintains. But when we hear all the baby-boomer worries it should makes us all raise an eyebrow to the possibilities that might sink our hopes of getting our due.

    Hey, I am not even pretending to know how it all works. I think it's my "not knowing" that has me so concerned.

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    Re: How much do you care about balancing the US federal budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Are people going to stop reproducing?
    After the baby boom, yeah they did sort of.

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